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Doctor Fauci admits he made up COVID rules
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Lucas McCain
2024-06-03 03:09:08 UTC
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Dr. Anthony Fauci confesses he 'made up' covid rules including 6 feet
social distancing and masking kids

Fauci said he does not know where the six-foot social distancing rule
came from

He also said that he was unaware of studies recommending masks for kids.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13481839/dr-anthony-fauci-social-distancing-masks-prevent-covid.html

Now, in an unexpected twist, Democrats on a House investigative panel
are starting to join their GOP colleagues in questioning whether
government-backed scientists were fully transparent about controversial
virus research and whether a longtime adviser to Fauci skirted public
records requests.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/02/fauci-covid-research-investigative-panel-00161109

NIH scientists made $710M in royalties from drug makers.

https://nypost.com/2024/06/02/opinion/nih-scientists-made-710m-in-royalties-from-drug-makers-a-fact-they-tried-to-hide/
--
You voted for student loan forgiveness. You got demographic replacement
and World War 3.

"Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to
aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic
transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection
1324(a)(3)."

“Western values mean three things: migration, LGBTQ, and war." Viktor Orban

Nothing is built, back, or better under Resident Brandon.

https://www.globalgulag.us
D
2024-06-03 08:41:36 UTC
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Dr. Anthony Fauci confesses he 'made up' covid rules including 6 feet social
distancing and masking kids
Fauci said he does not know where the six-foot social distancing rule came
from
He also said that he was unaware of studies recommending masks for kids.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13481839/dr-anthony-fauci-social-distancing-masks-prevent-covid.html
Now, in an unexpected twist, Democrats on a House investigative panel are
starting to join their GOP colleagues in questioning whether
government-backed scientists were fully transparent about controversial virus
research and whether a longtime adviser to Fauci skirted public records
requests.
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/02/fauci-covid-research-investigative-panel-00161109
NIH scientists made $710M in royalties from drug makers.
https://nypost.com/2024/06/02/opinion/nih-scientists-made-710m-in-royalties-from-drug-makers-a-fact-they-tried-to-hide/
Is anyone surprised? They were so silly it was kind of obvious. My
favourite was the mask off when sitting down at a restaurant, mask on when
standing up to go to the toilet. Brilliant!

I still have my doctors note which enable me to travel mask free on
international flights. It will be framed and used again next time the
governments of the world try to take away our freedoms.

Sadly I don't think it will work to copy someone elses QR code next time
though. That was very convenient as well to go into vax-only territories
to buy food.

At the beginning of corona, it was even possible to print your own
corona-test result papers although that was eventually locked down.
Lucas McCain
2024-06-03 12:34:10 UTC
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Post by D
Post by Lucas McCain
Dr. Anthony Fauci confesses he 'made up' covid rules including 6 feet
social distancing and masking kids
Fauci said he does not know where the six-foot social distancing rule
came from
He also said that he was unaware of studies recommending masks for kids.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13481839/dr-anthony-fauci-social-distancing-masks-prevent-covid.html
Now, in an unexpected twist, Democrats on a House investigative panel
are starting to join their GOP colleagues in questioning whether
government-backed scientists were fully transparent about
controversial virus research and whether a longtime adviser to Fauci
skirted public records requests.
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/02/fauci-covid-research-investigative-panel-00161109
NIH scientists made $710M in royalties from drug makers.
https://nypost.com/2024/06/02/opinion/nih-scientists-made-710m-in-royalties-from-drug-makers-a-fact-they-tried-to-hide/
Is anyone surprised? They were so silly it was kind of obvious. My
favourite was the mask off when sitting down at a restaurant, mask on
when standing up to go to the toilet. Brilliant!
I still have my doctors note which enable me to travel mask free on
international flights. It will be framed and used again next time the
governments of the world try to take away our freedoms.
Sadly I don't think it will work to copy someone elses QR code next time
though. That was very convenient as well to go into vax-only territories
to buy food.
At the beginning of corona, it was even possible to print your own
corona-test result papers although that was eventually locked down.
If my memory serves me well, "Mr. Science" (Fauci) had a checkered past
with regard to the AIDS / HIV "pandemic" as well as with regard to
COVID. He also made a fortune off patents that he held with regard to
the mRNA "vaccines" and funded horrific animal experiments. Physicians
who challenged his decisions with regard to lock downs and masks were
smeared by the mainstream media, banned from social media, and often had
their careers ruined.
--
You voted for student loan forgiveness. You got demographic replacement
and World War 3.

"Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to
aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic
transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection
1324(a)(3)."

“Western values mean three things: migration, LGBTQ, and war." Viktor Orban

Nothing is built, back, or better under Resident Brandon.

https://www.globalgulag.us
D
2024-06-03 15:18:59 UTC
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Post by D
Post by Lucas McCain
Dr. Anthony Fauci confesses he 'made up' covid rules including 6 feet
social distancing and masking kids
Fauci said he does not know where the six-foot social distancing rule came
from
He also said that he was unaware of studies recommending masks for kids.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13481839/dr-anthony-fauci-social-distancing-masks-prevent-covid.html
Now, in an unexpected twist, Democrats on a House investigative panel are
starting to join their GOP colleagues in questioning whether
government-backed scientists were fully transparent about controversial
virus research and whether a longtime adviser to Fauci skirted public
records requests.
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/02/fauci-covid-research-investigative-panel-00161109
NIH scientists made $710M in royalties from drug makers.
https://nypost.com/2024/06/02/opinion/nih-scientists-made-710m-in-royalties-from-drug-makers-a-fact-they-tried-to-hide/
Is anyone surprised? They were so silly it was kind of obvious. My
favourite was the mask off when sitting down at a restaurant, mask on when
standing up to go to the toilet. Brilliant!
I still have my doctors note which enable me to travel mask free on
international flights. It will be framed and used again next time the
governments of the world try to take away our freedoms.
Sadly I don't think it will work to copy someone elses QR code next time
though. That was very convenient as well to go into vax-only territories to
buy food.
At the beginning of corona, it was even possible to print your own
corona-test result papers although that was eventually locked down.
If my memory serves me well, "Mr. Science" (Fauci) had a checkered past with
regard to the AIDS / HIV "pandemic" as well as with regard to COVID. He also
made a fortune off patents that he held with regard to the mRNA "vaccines"
and funded horrific animal experiments. Physicians who challenged his
decisions with regard to lock downs and masks were smeared by the mainstream
media, banned from social media, and often had their careers ruined.
Sounds like the typical definition of a civil servant or politician!
rbowman
2024-06-03 19:20:40 UTC
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Post by D
I still have my doctors note which enable me to travel mask free on
international flights. It will be framed and used again next time the
governments of the world try to take away our freedoms.
A local bookstore announced a reading/book signing by James Lee Burke. I
was amazed to see that masks are required. Guess I won't be going.
D
2024-06-03 20:36:49 UTC
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Post by rbowman
Post by D
I still have my doctors note which enable me to travel mask free on
international flights. It will be framed and used again next time the
governments of the world try to take away our freedoms.
A local bookstore announced a reading/book signing by James Lee Burke. I
was amazed to see that masks are required. Guess I won't be going.
Are they _still_ keeping up that nonsense? Say that you can't wear a mask
due to medical reasons, and that this results in them discriminating
against sick people. ;)

That's kind of the gist of my power note and worked on all airlines except
one, and that airline I will never fly with again. That brings back fun
memories. I refused wearing the mask once the plane was in the air and was
threatened by the staff and the captain but just ignored them. There was
talk of fines, prison, but I wouldn't even look at them, but just kept
looking out the window or ignoring them. In the end they gave up, did not
emergency land the plane, and eventually just moved on to harassing other
passengers instead.

Sometimes you just need to say no, and stand by that no, no matter what
happens or what the threat is.

And no fines ever showed up.
rbowman
2024-06-03 20:54:37 UTC
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Post by D
Post by rbowman
Post by D
I still have my doctors note which enable me to travel mask free on
international flights. It will be framed and used again next time the
governments of the world try to take away our freedoms.
A local bookstore announced a reading/book signing by James Lee Burke.
I was amazed to see that masks are required. Guess I won't be going.
Are they _still_ keeping up that nonsense? Say that you can't wear a
mask due to medical reasons, and that this results in them
discriminating against sick people.
I haven't been in the store since well before covid and I don't know if
that is their policy. I went to a reading/signing at the public library
last month and there wasn't a mask in sight. There are still some who wear
them but other than that store I don't think anyone requires them.

The county health official who was behind the masks/lockdowns was fired.
According to my dentist she has a long history of being fired for
incompetence so a local government job was her last resort.

I still have the letter stating I work in an essential industry to cover
me for lockdowns although I never had to present it.
D
2024-06-04 08:24:01 UTC
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Post by rbowman
Post by D
Post by rbowman
Post by D
I still have my doctors note which enable me to travel mask free on
international flights. It will be framed and used again next time the
governments of the world try to take away our freedoms.
A local bookstore announced a reading/book signing by James Lee Burke.
I was amazed to see that masks are required. Guess I won't be going.
Are they _still_ keeping up that nonsense? Say that you can't wear a
mask due to medical reasons, and that this results in them
discriminating against sick people.
I haven't been in the store since well before covid and I don't know if
that is their policy. I went to a reading/signing at the public library
last month and there wasn't a mask in sight. There are still some who wear
them but other than that store I don't think anyone requires them.
The county health official who was behind the masks/lockdowns was fired.
According to my dentist she has a long history of being fired for
incompetence so a local government job was her last resort.
I still have the letter stating I work in an essential industry to cover
me for lockdowns although I never had to present it.
Ahh... the power of a smaller town, where nuggets like that actually
spread around and it is more difficult for politicians and civil
"servants" to hide in plain sight.

That's why democracy on a national level breaks down. Too many people too
little accountability.
Loran
2024-06-04 15:54:30 UTC
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Post by rbowman
Post by D
Post by rbowman
Post by D
I still have my doctors note which enable me to travel mask free on
international flights. It will be framed and used again next time the
governments of the world try to take away our freedoms.
A local bookstore announced a reading/book signing by James Lee Burke.
I was amazed to see that masks are required. Guess I won't be going.
Are they _still_ keeping up that nonsense? Say that you can't wear a
mask due to medical reasons, and that this results in them
discriminating against sick people.
I haven't been in the store since well before covid and I don't know if
that is their policy. I went to a reading/signing at the public library
last month and there wasn't a mask in sight. There are still some who wear
them but other than that store I don't think anyone requires them.
The county health official who was behind the masks/lockdowns was fired.
According to my dentist she has a long history of being fired for
incompetence so a local government job was her last resort.
I still have the letter stating I work in an essential industry to cover
me for lockdowns although I never had to present it.
Ahh... the power of a smaller town, where nuggets like that actually
spread around and it is more difficult for politicians and civil
"servants" to hide in plain sight.
That's why democracy on a national level breaks down. Too many people
too little accountability.
Amen!
rbowman
2024-06-04 20:35:52 UTC
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Post by D
Ahh... the power of a smaller town, where nuggets like that actually
spread around and it is more difficult for politicians and civil
"servants" to hide in plain sight.
That's why democracy on a national level breaks down. Too many people
too little accountability.
A state of 330 million is way to big. I won't even call it a nation since
a nation implies a common culture, ethic, language, and so forth. I am not
a civic nationalist by any means.

The differences become apparent even on a local level. This is a blue
county surrounded by red neighbors. I don't know if the county 15 miles to
the south even had a mask mandate but if it did nobody paid attention to
it. for that matter even within the county the city is blue and the rest
of the county is red.

An author, Malka Older, wrote a trilogy where the world consisted of
centenals, areas of 100,000 people that shared a common set of values. If
you didn't like the way the one you were in was run, move to an acceptable
one. Two adjacent centenals might have a completely different system of
government. Mninmal controls were in place to prevent inter-centenal
aggression.
D
2024-06-05 05:36:30 UTC
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Post by rbowman
Post by D
Ahh... the power of a smaller town, where nuggets like that actually
spread around and it is more difficult for politicians and civil
"servants" to hide in plain sight.
That's why democracy on a national level breaks down. Too many people
too little accountability.
A state of 330 million is way to big. I won't even call it a nation since
a nation implies a common culture, ethic, language, and so forth. I am not
a civic nationalist by any means.
The differences become apparent even on a local level. This is a blue
county surrounded by red neighbors. I don't know if the county 15 miles to
the south even had a mask mandate but if it did nobody paid attention to
it. for that matter even within the county the city is blue and the rest
of the county is red.
An author, Malka Older, wrote a trilogy where the world consisted of
centenals, areas of 100,000 people that shared a common set of values. If
you didn't like the way the one you were in was run, move to an acceptable
one. Two adjacent centenals might have a completely different system of
government. Mninmal controls were in place to prevent inter-centenal
aggression.
Interesting book. I'm not a nationalist but I do acknowledge that
nationalism or having a common culture, to a certain extent, is good for
the stability of society.

It's an interesting thought to imagine that we split land areas today
along political/ideological lines, republican/democrat, white/black etc.
How many subdivisions would we have to go through before the remaining
society would become stable and harmonius?
rbowman
2024-06-05 16:37:54 UTC
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Post by D
It's an interesting thought to imagine that we split land areas today
along political/ideological lines, republican/democrat, white/black etc.
How many subdivisions would we have to go through before the remaining
society would become stable and harmonius?
It would be an interesting project. Even the states would be splitting.
Unless it's changed radically from when I lived there upstate NY doesn't
have much use for NYC and its environs. Another example is the more or
less serious movement in eastern Oregon to secede and join Idaho.
D
2024-06-05 20:22:49 UTC
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Post by rbowman
Post by D
It's an interesting thought to imagine that we split land areas today
along political/ideological lines, republican/democrat, white/black etc.
How many subdivisions would we have to go through before the remaining
society would become stable and harmonius?
It would be an interesting project. Even the states would be splitting.
Unless it's changed radically from when I lived there upstate NY doesn't
have much use for NYC and its environs. Another example is the more or
less serious movement in eastern Oregon to secede and join Idaho.
Thinking of Stockholm, the different parts of the city are divided along
party lines. Suburbs you have immigrants and criminals, one part is the
financial sector, one parts the artsy people, one part lots of media
people etc.

Those would all seem like natural divisions.
rbowman
2024-06-05 23:57:48 UTC
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Post by D
Thinking of Stockholm, the different parts of the city are divided along
party lines. Suburbs you have immigrants and criminals, one part is the
financial sector, one parts the artsy people, one part lots of media
people etc.
Those would all seem like natural divisions.
You could say the same of Baltimore.
Loran
2024-06-04 15:53:58 UTC
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Post by D
Post by rbowman
Post by D
I still have my doctors note which enable me to travel mask free on
international flights. It will be framed and used again next time the
governments of the world try to take away our freedoms.
A local bookstore announced a reading/book signing by James Lee Burke. I
was amazed to see that masks are required. Guess I won't be going.
Are they _still_ keeping up that nonsense? Say that you can't wear a
mask due to medical reasons, and that this results in them
discriminating against sick people. ;)
That's kind of the gist of my power note and worked on all airlines
except one, and that airline I will never fly with again. That brings
back fun memories. I refused wearing the mask once the plane was in the
air and was threatened by the staff and the captain but just ignored
them. There was talk of fines, prison, but I wouldn't even look at them,
but just kept looking out the window or ignoring them. In the end they
gave up, did not emergency land the plane, and eventually just moved on
to harassing other passengers instead.
Sometimes you just need to say no, and stand by that no, no matter what
happens or what the threat is.
And no fines ever showed up.
It's all a ginormous genocidal HOAX!

Only the senseless death and lingering myocarditis in our young is real.
Jablonsky
2024-06-04 21:11:16 UTC
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Post by Loran
Post by D
Post by rbowman
Post by D
I still have my doctors note which enable me to travel mask free on
international flights. It will be framed and used again next time the
governments of the world try to take away our freedoms.
A local bookstore announced a reading/book signing by James Lee Burke. I
was amazed to see that masks are required. Guess I won't be going.
Are they _still_ keeping up that nonsense? Say that you can't wear a
mask due to medical reasons, and that this results in them
discriminating against sick people. ;)
That's kind of the gist of my power note and worked on all airlines
except one, and that airline I will never fly with again. That brings
back fun memories. I refused wearing the mask once the plane was in
the air and was threatened by the staff and the captain but just
ignored them. There was talk of fines, prison, but I wouldn't even
look at them, but just kept looking out the window or ignoring them.
In the end they gave up, did not emergency land the plane, and
eventually just moved on to harassing other passengers instead.
Sometimes you just need to say no, and stand by that no, no matter
what happens or what the threat is.
And no fines ever showed up.
It's all a ginormous genocidal HOAX!
Only the senseless death and lingering myocarditis in our young is real.
Joe Biden and Kamala Harris stinking up the Whitehouse and making a
complete fool of the US is real.
Loran
2024-06-05 20:22:30 UTC
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Post by Jablonsky
Post by Loran
Post by D
Post by rbowman
Post by D
I still have my doctors note which enable me to travel mask free on
international flights. It will be framed and used again next time the
governments of the world try to take away our freedoms.
A local bookstore announced a reading/book signing by James Lee Burke. I
was amazed to see that masks are required. Guess I won't be going.
Are they _still_ keeping up that nonsense? Say that you can't wear a
mask due to medical reasons, and that this results in them
discriminating against sick people. ;)
That's kind of the gist of my power note and worked on all airlines
except one, and that airline I will never fly with again. That brings
back fun memories. I refused wearing the mask once the plane was in
the air and was threatened by the staff and the captain but just
ignored them. There was talk of fines, prison, but I wouldn't even
look at them, but just kept looking out the window or ignoring them.
In the end they gave up, did not emergency land the plane, and
eventually just moved on to harassing other passengers instead.
Sometimes you just need to say no, and stand by that no, no matter
what happens or what the threat is.
And no fines ever showed up.
It's all a ginormous genocidal HOAX!
Only the senseless death and lingering myocarditis in our young is real.
Joe Biden and Kamala Harris stinking up the Whitehouse and making a
complete fool of the US is real.
Al under the corrupted communist tutelage and commands of Obammy and
Valerie Jarret.
Loran
2024-06-04 15:51:47 UTC
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Post by D
Post by Lucas McCain
Dr. Anthony Fauci confesses he 'made up' covid rules including 6 feet
social distancing and masking kids
Fauci said he does not know where the six-foot social distancing rule
came from
He also said that he was unaware of studies recommending masks for kids.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13481839/dr-anthony-fauci-social-distancing-masks-prevent-covid.html
Now, in an unexpected twist, Democrats on a House investigative panel
are starting to join their GOP colleagues in questioning whether
government-backed scientists were fully transparent about
controversial virus research and whether a longtime adviser to Fauci
skirted public records requests.
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/02/fauci-covid-research-investigative-panel-00161109
NIH scientists made $710M in royalties from drug makers.
https://nypost.com/2024/06/02/opinion/nih-scientists-made-710m-in-royalties-from-drug-makers-a-fact-they-tried-to-hide/
Is anyone surprised? They were so silly it was kind of obvious. My
favourite was the mask off when sitting down at a restaurant, mask on
when standing up to go to the toilet. Brilliant!
I still have my doctors note which enable me to travel mask free on
international flights. It will be framed and used again next time the
governments of the world try to take away our freedoms.
Sadly I don't think it will work to copy someone elses QR code next time
though. That was very convenient as well to go into vax-only territories
to buy food.
At the beginning of corona, it was even possible to print your own
corona-test result papers although that was eventually locked down.
All this plandemic scheme handily and publicly displayed for decades in
little Elberton, Georgia:

https://www.zmescience.com/feature-post/georgia-guidestones-mysterious-instructions-for-the-post-apocalypse/

"On a barren field in Georgia, US, five granite slabs rise in a star
pattern. Each of them weighs over 20 tons and on top of them, there is a
capstone. Nobody knows who built it or why they were placed there, but
one popular opinion that their purpose is to guide humanity after a
predicted post-apocalyptic event that will come in the not so distant
future. The huge blocks send a message out to the world in eight
different current languages, as well as four extinct ones (ancient Greek
and Egyptian hieroglyphs for example). The set of ten guidelines has
baffled people around the world, with descriptions ranging from perfect
and utopian to satanic or quirky. But no matter what the case, these ten
commandments should definitely get you thinking:

Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.

Guide reproduction wisely – improving fitness and diversity.

Unite humanity with a living new language.

Rule passion – faith – tradition – and all things with tempered reason.

Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.

Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world
court.

Avoid petty laws and useless officials.

Balance personal rights with social duties.

Prize truth – beauty – love – seeking harmony with the infinite.

Be not a cancer on the earth – Leave room for nature – Leave room for nature

While some of them are clearly noble and laudable (like having fair laws
and avoiding petty ones), some of them have stirred controversy —
especially “Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance
with nature”, and “Guide reproduction wisely – improving fitness and
diversity”. If we were to apply these now, we’d have to kill over 90% of
the planet.

Update: unfortunately, the Georgia Guidestones have been blown up by
vandals. It’s unclear who and why destroyed the stones, which were kept
by locals as a piece of history. At least one of the slabs was destroyed
in an explosion, and authorities flattened the entire structure for
safety reasons. The monument, which was hated by some Christian groups,
may be rebuilt or restored, but it’s unclear exactly if and when this
will happen."


Not too hard to read between THOSE genocidal lines, now is it?
Lucas McCain
2024-06-04 18:28:24 UTC
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On 6/4/2024 9:51 AM, Loran wrote:

Withe regard to Georgia Guide Stones
Post by Loran
Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
Excellent commandment.
--
You voted for student loan forgiveness. You got demographic replacement
and World War 3.

"Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to
aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic
transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection
1324(a)(3)."

“Western values mean three things: migration, LGBTQ, and war." Viktor Orban

Nothing is built, back, or better under Resident Brandon.

https://www.globalgulag.us
Loran
2024-06-05 15:36:07 UTC
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Post by Lucas McCain
Withe regard to Georgia Guide Stones
Post by Loran
Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
Excellent commandment.
How about the 500 million cull, you down with that level of person
shrinkage/genocide?
Lucas McCain
2024-06-05 18:43:39 UTC
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Post by Loran
Post by Lucas McCain
Withe regard to Georgia Guide Stones
Post by Loran
Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
Excellent commandment.
How about the 500 million cull, you down with that level of person
shrinkage/genocide?
From my own observations while traveling in foreign lands, I'd say 500
million is still too many humans if the planet is to be given a chance
to support all life in the long term. I would not personally involve
myself with some cull on moral grounds, but I do believe that there are
far too many humans for the planet to support long term without
degrading the planet to the point that the living would envy the dead.

In the 1970's there was a "back to the land" movement and a zero
population growth (ZPG) movement that got hijacked by Chamber of
Commerce types who felt otherwise and seemed to have been able to buy
off politicians to push for unsustainable growth.
--
You voted for student loan forgiveness. You got demographic replacement
and World War 3.

"Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to
aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic
transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection
1324(a)(3)."

“Western values mean three things: migration, LGBTQ, and war." Viktor Orban

Nothing is built, back, or better under Resident Brandon.

https://www.globalgulag.us
Loran
2024-06-05 20:12:26 UTC
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Post by Lucas McCain
Post by Loran
Post by Lucas McCain
Withe regard to Georgia Guide Stones
Post by Loran
Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
Excellent commandment.
How about the 500 million cull, you down with that level of person
shrinkage/genocide?
From my own observations while traveling in foreign lands, I'd say 500
million is still too many humans if the planet is to be given a chance
to support all life in the long term.
You'd be both:

1. wrong
2. in deficit of critical proofs and citations
Post by Lucas McCain
I would not personally involve
myself with some cull on moral grounds, but I do believe that there are
far too many humans for the planet to support long term without
degrading the planet to the point that the living would envy the dead.
Water is the defining measure, and we're about to get a lot more of that
soon!
Post by Lucas McCain
In the 1970's there was a "back to the land" movement and a zero
population growth (ZPG) movement that got hijacked by Chamber of
Commerce types who felt otherwise and seemed to have been able to buy
off politicians to push for unsustainable growth.
ZPG and Paul Eehrlich were propagandists whose predictions all failed.

Let's face facts here, the Georgia Guidestones contained the recipe for
genocide that Covid started and the Dems are planning to finish.
Lucas McCain
2024-06-05 23:02:40 UTC
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Post by Loran
Post by Loran
Post by Lucas McCain
Withe regard to Georgia Guide Stones
Post by Loran
Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
Excellent commandment.
How about the 500 million cull, you down with that level of person
shrinkage/genocide?
 From my own observations while traveling in foreign lands, I'd say
500 million is still too many humans if the planet is to be given a
chance to support all life in the long term.
1. wrong
2. in deficit of critical proofs and citations
One can't be proven wrong per events that haven't happened yet and to
your second point, one can't provide critical proofs and citations per a
future that has yet to come to pass. I am reminded of a Japanese
geologist who predicted a tsunami and earthquake would cause a meltdown
of the Daichi nuclear reactors in Fukushima before 2011. He was
silenced, cancelled, fired and dismissed as essentially "in deficit of
critical proofs and citations" so that General Electric could build the
nuclear reactors in the earthquake, tsunami prone area. The media
whores and bureaucrats who laughed at him and scorned his warnings were
proven wrong by the tsunami and earthquake that resulted in an ongoing
crisis in Fukushima.

I've seen in my lifetime a pronounced and catastrophic loss of insect
populations and fish in lakes, rivers and oceans. I've witnessed vast
losses of rain forests in Central and South America. Farmland in North
America is being lost to urban sprawl at a frightening rate. Based on
what I've observed, there are far too many humans and mother nature is
powerless to fight back against our destructive, mindless war against
nature.
Post by Loran
I would not personally involve myself with some cull on moral grounds,
but I do believe that there are far too many humans for the planet to
support long term without degrading the planet to the point that the
living would envy the dead.
Water is the defining measure, and we're about to get a lot more of that
soon!
In the 1970's there was a "back to the land" movement and a zero
population growth (ZPG) movement that got hijacked by Chamber of
Commerce types who felt otherwise and seemed to have been able to buy
off politicians to push for unsustainable growth.
ZPG and Paul Eehrlich were propagandists whose predictions all failed.
ZPG was and is a goal to achieve, not propaganda. ZPG is not a
prediction, it is a desired goal by some people. The only failure was
allowing Chamber of Commerce "growth is good" spokesholes to define net
zero population growth as harmful, racist, xenophobic, nationlist and
selfish.
Post by Loran
Let's face facts here, the Georgia Guidestones contained the recipe for
genocide that Covid started and the Dems are planning to finish.
One might make the same claim with regard to Joe Biden's foreign policy
with regard to Ukraine and the state of Israel and his open borders
policy with regard to "migrants".
--
You voted for student loan forgiveness. You got demographic replacement
and World War 3.

"Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to
aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic
transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection
1324(a)(3)."

“Western values mean three things: migration, LGBTQ, and war." Viktor Orban

Nothing is built, back, or better under Resident Brandon.

https://www.globalgulag.us
Loran
2024-06-06 15:55:19 UTC
Permalink
Post by Lucas McCain
Post by Loran
Post by Loran
Post by Lucas McCain
Withe regard to Georgia Guide Stones
Post by Loran
Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
Excellent commandment.
How about the 500 million cull, you down with that level of person
shrinkage/genocide?
 From my own observations while traveling in foreign lands, I'd say
500 million is still too many humans if the planet is to be given a
chance to support all life in the long term.
1. wrong
2. in deficit of critical proofs and citations
One can't be proven wrong per events that haven't happened yet
Never heard of paleo-climates and the fossil record, or remnant magnetism?

Seriously?

We use the past as prologue with scientific method to confirm constantly.
Post by Lucas McCain
and to
your second point, one can't provide critical proofs and citations per a
future that has yet to come to pass.
Wrong again - see Revelations.
Post by Lucas McCain
I am reminded of a Japanese
geologist who predicted a tsunami and earthquake would cause a meltdown
of the Daichi nuclear reactors in Fukushima before 2011.  He was
silenced, cancelled, fired and dismissed as essentially "in deficit of
critical proofs and citations" so that General Electric could build the
nuclear reactors in the earthquake, tsunami prone area.  The media
whores and bureaucrats who laughed at him and scorned his warnings were
proven wrong by the tsunami and earthquake that resulted in an ongoing
crisis in Fukushima.
Yes, all true.
Post by Lucas McCain
I've seen in my lifetime a pronounced and catastrophic loss of insect
populations and fish in lakes, rivers and oceans.  I've witnessed vast
losses of rain forests in Central and South America.  Farmland in North
America is being lost to urban sprawl at a frightening rate.  Based on
what I've observed, there are far too many humans and mother nature is
powerless to fight back against our destructive, mindless war against
nature.
But that isn't a malady of numbers, it's rather a rigged game by our
masters of enforced artificial scarcity.

Slaves do as told, or work endlessly to escape that control matrix.

Both scenarios cause despoliation, which the global elites both cause,
lampoon, and continue to let happen.
Post by Lucas McCain
Post by Loran
I would not personally involve myself with some cull on moral
grounds, but I do believe that there are far too many humans for the
planet to support long term without degrading the planet to the point
that the living would envy the dead.
Water is the defining measure, and we're about to get a lot more of
that soon!
In the 1970's there was a "back to the land" movement and a zero
population growth (ZPG) movement that got hijacked by Chamber of
Commerce types who felt otherwise and seemed to have been able to buy
off politicians to push for unsustainable growth.
ZPG and Paul Eehrlich were propagandists whose predictions all failed.
ZPG was and is a goal to achieve, not propaganda.
No it was failed propaganda.
Post by Lucas McCain
ZPG is not a
prediction, it is a desired goal by some people.
Bullshit it sure as Hell was a prediction:

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/book-incited-worldwide-fear-overpopulation-180967499/

The first sentence set the tone: “The battle to feed all of humanity is
over.” And humanity had lost. In the 1970s, the book promised, “hundreds
of millions of people are going to starve to death.” No matter what
people do, “nothing can prevent a substantial increase in the world
death rate.”

Published at a time of tremendous conflict and social upheaval,
Ehrlich’s book argued that many of the day’s most alarming events had a
single, underlying cause: Too many people, packed into too-tight spaces,
taking too much from the earth. Unless humanity cut down its
numbers—soon—all of us would face “mass starvation” on “a dying planet.”
Post by Lucas McCain
The only failure was
allowing Chamber of Commerce "growth is good" spokesholes to define net
zero population growth as harmful, racist, xenophobic, nationlist and
selfish.
This is generally true, but somewhat beside the point of the scripted
Covid genocide we just were subjected to by...wait for it...OUR OWN
GLOBAL ELITES!
Post by Lucas McCain
Post by Loran
Let's face facts here, the Georgia Guidestones contained the recipe
for genocide that Covid started and the Dems are planning to finish.
One might make the same claim with regard to Joe Biden's foreign policy
with regard to Ukraine and the state of Israel and his open borders
policy with regard to "migrants".
And one would be entirely correct!
Lucas McCain
2024-06-06 18:04:38 UTC
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Post by Loran
Post by Lucas McCain
ZPG was and is a goal to achieve, not propaganda.
No it was failed propaganda.
Post by Lucas McCain
ZPG is not a prediction, it is a desired goal by some people.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/book-incited-worldwide-fear-overpopulation-180967499/
The first sentence set the tone: “The battle to feed all of humanity is
over.” And humanity had lost. In the 1970s, the book promised, “hundreds
of millions of people are going to starve to death.” No matter what
people do, “nothing can prevent a substantial increase in the world
death rate.”
Published at a time of tremendous conflict and social upheaval,
Ehrlich’s book argued that many of the day’s most alarming events had a
single, underlying cause: Too many people, packed into too-tight spaces,
taking too much from the earth. Unless humanity cut down its
numbers—soon—all of us would face “mass starvation” on “a dying planet.”
Zero population growth is a concept and an ideal completely removed and
apart from a book by the same title or acronym. Governor Dick Lamm of
Colorado and Governor Tom McCall in Oregon both subscribed to limited
population growth in an attempt to preserve the qualities that made both
states a target destination for people fleeing California due to its
urban sprawl and massive growth in the post World War II period.

Whenever I drive between Pegosa Springs and Denver on Highway 285 in
Colorado, I weep when I see an agricultural area that once produced the
best cantaloupe produce in the nation which has been reduced to a dried
up wasteland ever since irrigation water there was diverted to Pueblo
and Colorado Springs to provide water for "newcomers" who moved to my
state from California and from across the Mexican border.

You are arguing that through water diversion projects and turning
farmland into cities that the earth can provide all that is needed for
more humans to continue to multiply. I am countering that the price
paid for that growth in terms of loss of land, wildlife, fish, birds,
forests, and wilderness is unacceptable to thinking people.

The U.S. reached ZPG in the '70s. It's a pity that "employers" and
their bought off politicians were unhappy with the replacement fertility
rate and decided that endless population growth is preferable to clean
air, clean water, and a land of plenty.
--
You voted for student loan forgiveness. You got demographic replacement
and World War 3.

"Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to
aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic
transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection
1324(a)(3)."

“Western values mean three things: migration, LGBTQ, and war." Viktor Orban

Nothing is built, back, or better under Resident Brandon.

https://www.globalgulag.us
Loran
2024-06-06 18:59:01 UTC
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Post by Lucas McCain
Post by Loran
Post by Lucas McCain
ZPG was and is a goal to achieve, not propaganda.
No it was failed propaganda.
Post by Lucas McCain
ZPG is not a prediction, it is a desired goal by some people.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/book-incited-worldwide-fear-overpopulation-180967499/
The first sentence set the tone: “The battle to feed all of humanity
is over.” And humanity had lost. In the 1970s, the book promised,
“hundreds of millions of people are going to starve to death.” No
matter what people do, “nothing can prevent a substantial increase in
the world death rate.”
Published at a time of tremendous conflict and social upheaval,
Ehrlich’s book argued that many of the day’s most alarming events had
a single, underlying cause: Too many people, packed into too-tight
spaces, taking too much from the earth. Unless humanity cut down its
numbers—soon—all of us would face “mass starvation” on “a dying planet.”
Zero population growth is a concept and an ideal completely removed and
apart from a book by the same title or acronym.
That book and that author are what drove ZPG as a topic de jour into the
pubic eye.

His predictions (as illustrated) all failed, same as Al Gore's loopy
climate change predictions that Florida would be underwater now also failed.

Junk science!
Post by Lucas McCain
Governor Dick Lamm of
Colorado and Governor Tom McCall in Oregon both subscribed to limited
population growth in an attempt to preserve the qualities that made both
states a target destination for people fleeing California due to its
urban sprawl and massive growth in the post World War II period.
And both were monumental failures by chasing off road and bridge
infrastructure that would have been nice to have after the growth
inevitably did come.

In Denver Dipshit Lamm cost Colorado a looped/beltway federal interstate
highway, consigning them to 40 years of on again/off again public and
privately funded tolled parkway loops.

McCall?

https://www.freedomworks.org/oregon-land-use-law-40-years-of-failed-planning/

The study showed that under current law, by 2050 approximately 6.64% of
the Willamette Valley would be urbanized. If SB100 were to be repealed,
that rate of urbanization would skyrocket … to 7.64%.

So here we have legislation with the original goals of reducing housing
costs, containing sprawl, protecting farm and forest land, and
diversifying Oregon’s industrial base. None of these goals have been
achieved, and yet we remain just as dedicated today to this Rube
Goldberg legal contraption as we were 40 years ago.

And our freedoms continue to slowly slip away, in favor of centralized
government planning.
Post by Lucas McCain
Whenever I drive between Pegosa Springs and Denver on Highway 285 in
Colorado, I weep when I see an agricultural area that once produced the
best cantaloupe produce in the nation which has been reduced to a dried
up wasteland
No, that road traverses potato, hops and barley growing country in the
high altitude San Luis Valley, not melon farms.

And it has not "dried up" yet - their artesian wells remain active and
abundant despite constant efforts to sell the water rights off to Denver.

Something Dipshit Lamm jumped into with both webbed feet!

You have conflated this trip with US Hwy. 50 out through Rocky Ford, La
Junta and Lamar - all in the southeastern plains.

https://dtdapps.coloradodot.info/staticdata/Maps/Documents/fp_COMAP%201.pdf
Post by Lucas McCain
ever since irrigation water there was diverted to Pueblo
and Colorado Springs to provide water for "newcomers" who moved to my
state from California and from across the Mexican border.
By "there" you refer to the Arkansas River Valley water in Lamar and La
Junta?

Unsurprising if true.
Post by Lucas McCain
You are arguing that through water diversion projects and turning
farmland into cities that the earth can provide all that is needed for
more humans to continue to multiply.
Never tell me what I am arguing!

I always say precisely what I mean.

I never said that on diversions and dams.

I am a fan of hydroponics and drip irrigation, fwiw.
Post by Lucas McCain
I am countering that the price
paid for that growth in terms of loss of land, wildlife, fish, birds,
forests, and wilderness is unacceptable to thinking people.
But that exact price will be paid except in desert cities where they
will recycle waster water into consumptive use for humans soon, not just
golf courses - which also are a travesty of water waste!
Post by Lucas McCain
The U.S. reached ZPG in the '70s.
As have many developed nations, which then gets blamed for economic
stagnation.
Post by Lucas McCain
It's a pity that "employers" and
their bought off politicians were unhappy with the replacement fertility
rate and decided that endless population growth is preferable to clean
air, clean water, and a land of plenty.
I 100% agree with that overall sentiment!

But you need to get your facts straight.

Drip irrigated farms and indoor hydroponics are a viable and well-tested
answer to consumptive agricultural water waste.
Lucas McCain
2024-06-06 21:55:14 UTC
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Post by Loran
Post by Lucas McCain
Whenever I drive between Pegosa Springs and Denver on Highway 285 in
Colorado, I weep when I see an agricultural area that once produced
the best cantaloupe produce in the nation which has been reduced to a
dried up wasteland
No, that road traverses potato, hops and barley growing country in the
high altitude San Luis Valley, not melon farms.
And it has not "dried up" yet - their artesian wells remain active and
abundant despite constant efforts to sell the water rights off to Denver.
Something Dipshit Lamm jumped into with both webbed feet!
You have conflated this trip with US Hwy. 50 out through Rocky Ford, La
Junta and Lamar - all in the southeastern plains.
https://dtdapps.coloradodot.info/staticdata/Maps/Documents/fp_COMAP%201.pdf
No. The area I remember near Buena Vista even has a roadside "scenic
pulloff" where a sign explains why the valley is in a dried up state due
to a diversion project that sent water from the valley to Colorado
Springs and Pueblo. It was formerly an agricultural area.

https://www.kunc.org/environment/2021-07-16/a-massive-plumbing-system-moves-water-across-colorados-mountains-but-this-year-theres-less-to-go-around
--
You voted for student loan forgiveness. You got demographic replacement
and World War 3.

"Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to
aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic
transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection
1324(a)(3)."

“Western values mean three things: migration, LGBTQ, and war." Viktor Orban

Nothing is built, back, or better under Resident Brandon.

https://www.globalgulag.us
HeartDoc Andrew
2024-06-06 22:06:08 UTC
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Post by Lucas McCain
Post by Loran
Post by Lucas McCain
Whenever I drive between Pegosa Springs and Denver on Highway 285 in
Colorado, I weep when I see an agricultural area that once produced
the best cantaloupe produce in the nation which has been reduced to a
dried up wasteland
No, that road traverses potato, hops and barley growing country in the
high altitude San Luis Valley, not melon farms.
And it has not "dried up" yet - their artesian wells remain active and
abundant despite constant efforts to sell the water rights off to Denver.
Something Dipshit Lamm jumped into with both webbed feet!
You have conflated this trip with US Hwy. 50 out through Rocky Ford, La
Junta and Lamar - all in the southeastern plains.
https://dtdapps.coloradodot.info/staticdata/Maps/Documents/fp_COMAP%201.pdf
No. The area I remember near Buena Vista even has a roadside "scenic
pulloff" where a sign explains why the valley is in a dried up state due
to a diversion project that sent water from the valley to Colorado
Springs and Pueblo. It was formerly an agricultural area.
https://www.kunc.org/environment/2021-07-16/a-massive-plumbing-system-moves-water-across-colorados-mountains-but-this-year-theres-less-to-go-around
In the interim, I am nonetheless wonderfully hungry (
https://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) for food right now (Luke 6:21a) and
hope you, Lucas, and others reading this, also have a healthy appetite
for food right now too.

So how are you ?
HeartDoc Andrew
2024-06-06 22:08:08 UTC
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(Fauci) 06/06/24 Again not a LoosePeeledQuackIdiot bigot ...

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/Ai33hw5PINI/m/wytVpY68MwAJ

Instead be "woke" to the sin of racial prejudice:

https://tinyurl.com/JesusIsWoke (i.e. not a Nazi bigot) *and* risen!!!
HeartDoc Andrew
2024-06-06 22:24:26 UTC
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On Thu, 06 Jun 2024 18:06:08 -0400, HeartDoc Andrew
Post by HeartDoc Andrew
Post by Lucas McCain
Post by Loran
Post by Lucas McCain
Whenever I drive between Pegosa Springs and Denver on Highway 285 in
Colorado, I weep when I see an agricultural area that once produced
the best cantaloupe produce in the nation which has been reduced to a
dried up wasteland
No, that road traverses potato, hops and barley growing country in the
high altitude San Luis Valley, not melon farms.
And it has not "dried up" yet - their artesian wells remain active and
abundant despite constant efforts to sell the water rights off to Denver.
Something Dipshit Lamm jumped into with both webbed feet!
You have conflated this trip with US Hwy. 50 out through Rocky Ford, La
Junta and Lamar - all in the southeastern plains.
https://dtdapps.coloradodot.info/staticdata/Maps/Documents/fp_COMAP%201.pdf
No. The area I remember near Buena Vista even has a roadside "scenic
pulloff" where a sign explains why the valley is in a dried up state due
to a diversion project that sent water from the valley to Colorado
Springs and Pueblo. It was formerly an agricultural area.
https://www.kunc.org/environment/2021-07-16/a-massive-plumbing-system-moves-water-across-colorados-mountains-but-this-year-theres-less-to-go-around
In the interim, I am nonetheless wonderfully hungry (
https://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) for food right now (Luke 6:21a) and
hope you, Lucas, and others reading this, also have a healthy appetite
for food right now too.
So how are you ?
(no reply for > 15 min)

Your not being able to reply appropriately over the past 15 min since
being greeted here means, Lucas, you're #StatCOVID19Test **positive**
which indicates you're possibly infected w/#COVID (See
or https://tinyurl.com/StatCOVID19Test
for the science).
Skeeter
2024-06-06 22:22:05 UTC
Permalink
In article <v3tb82$1m52l$***@dont-email.me>, ***@tutanato.com
says...
Post by Lucas McCain
Post by Loran
Post by Lucas McCain
Whenever I drive between Pegosa Springs and Denver on Highway 285 in
Colorado, I weep when I see an agricultural area that once produced
the best cantaloupe produce in the nation which has been reduced to a
dried up wasteland
No, that road traverses potato, hops and barley growing country in the
high altitude San Luis Valley, not melon farms.
And it has not "dried up" yet - their artesian wells remain active and
abundant despite constant efforts to sell the water rights off to Denver.
Something Dipshit Lamm jumped into with both webbed feet!
You have conflated this trip with US Hwy. 50 out through Rocky Ford, La
Junta and Lamar - all in the southeastern plains.
https://dtdapps.coloradodot.info/staticdata/Maps/Documents/fp_COMAP%201.pdf
No. The area I remember near Buena Vista even has a roadside "scenic
pulloff" where a sign explains why the valley is in a dried up state due
to a diversion project that sent water from the valley to Colorado
Springs and Pueblo. It was formerly an agricultural area.
Hey! I live there. It's hot today.
Post by Lucas McCain
https://www.kunc.org/environment/2021-07-16/a-massive-plumbing-system-moves-water-across-colorados-mountains-but-this-year-theres-less-to-go-around
Loran
2024-06-07 18:17:23 UTC
Permalink
Post by Skeeter
says...
Post by Lucas McCain
Post by Loran
Post by Lucas McCain
Whenever I drive between Pegosa Springs and Denver on Highway 285 in
Colorado, I weep when I see an agricultural area that once produced
the best cantaloupe produce in the nation which has been reduced to a
dried up wasteland
No, that road traverses potato, hops and barley growing country in the
high altitude San Luis Valley, not melon farms.
And it has not "dried up" yet - their artesian wells remain active and
abundant despite constant efforts to sell the water rights off to Denver.
Something Dipshit Lamm jumped into with both webbed feet!
You have conflated this trip with US Hwy. 50 out through Rocky Ford, La
Junta and Lamar - all in the southeastern plains.
https://dtdapps.coloradodot.info/staticdata/Maps/Documents/fp_COMAP%201.pdf
No. The area I remember near Buena Vista even has a roadside "scenic
pulloff" where a sign explains why the valley is in a dried up state due
to a diversion project that sent water from the valley to Colorado
Springs and Pueblo. It was formerly an agricultural area.
Hey! I live there. It's hot today.
Post by Lucas McCain
https://www.kunc.org/environment/2021-07-16/a-massive-plumbing-system-moves-water-across-colorados-mountains-but-this-year-theres-less-to-go-around
You also know that melons are not the cash crop there.

https://www.palmerland.org/blog/history-of-agriculture-in-southern-colorado

How's the new hot springs doing, been up for a soak?

https://www.chaffeecountytimes.com/news/charlotte-hot-springs-opens-soaking-pools/article_72446d34-99e1-11ee-8bbc-ef6c152568a7.html

The concept for Charlotte Hot Springs and Botanical Gardens, named after
Merrifield’s grandmother, an early resident of the area, has been a long
time coming.

“We started utilizing the geothermal water back in ‘69, ‘70. Then in
‘85, we expanded and started using more of the hot springs’ water and
built these three large greenhouses,’ Merrifield said. “Things really
started rolling in the year 2000. We started getting together a plan for
the county, a planned unit development, approved in 2003. So we’ve
really been at this for 23 years.”
Skeeter
2024-06-07 18:20:00 UTC
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Post by Loran
Post by Skeeter
says...
Post by Lucas McCain
Post by Loran
Post by Lucas McCain
Whenever I drive between Pegosa Springs and Denver on Highway 285 in
Colorado, I weep when I see an agricultural area that once produced
the best cantaloupe produce in the nation which has been reduced to a
dried up wasteland
No, that road traverses potato, hops and barley growing country in the
high altitude San Luis Valley, not melon farms.
And it has not "dried up" yet - their artesian wells remain active and
abundant despite constant efforts to sell the water rights off to Denver.
Something Dipshit Lamm jumped into with both webbed feet!
You have conflated this trip with US Hwy. 50 out through Rocky Ford, La
Junta and Lamar - all in the southeastern plains.
https://dtdapps.coloradodot.info/staticdata/Maps/Documents/fp_COMAP%201.pdf
No. The area I remember near Buena Vista even has a roadside "scenic
pulloff" where a sign explains why the valley is in a dried up state due
to a diversion project that sent water from the valley to Colorado
Springs and Pueblo. It was formerly an agricultural area.
Hey! I live there. It's hot today.
Post by Lucas McCain
https://www.kunc.org/environment/2021-07-16/a-massive-plumbing-system-moves-water-across-colorados-mountains-but-this-year-theres-less-to-go-around
You also know that melons are not the cash crop there.
Weed is now...LOL
Post by Loran
https://www.palmerland.org/blog/history-of-agriculture-in-southern-colorado
How's the new hot springs doing, been up for a soak?
Not is a while.
Post by Loran
https://www.chaffeecountytimes.com/news/charlotte-hot-springs-opens-soaking-pools/article_72446d34-99e1-11ee-8bbc-ef6c152568a7.html
The concept for Charlotte Hot Springs and Botanical Gardens, named after
Merrifield?s grandmother, an early resident of the area, has been a long
time coming.
?We started utilizing the geothermal water back in ?69, ?70. Then in
?85, we expanded and started using more of the hot springs? water and
built these three large greenhouses,? Merrifield said. ?Things really
started rolling in the year 2000. We started getting together a plan for
the county, a planned unit development, approved in 2003. So we?ve
really been at this for 23 years.?
Loran
2024-06-07 20:25:10 UTC
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Post by Skeeter
Post by Loran
Post by Skeeter
says...
Post by Lucas McCain
Post by Loran
Post by Lucas McCain
Whenever I drive between Pegosa Springs and Denver on Highway 285 in
Colorado, I weep when I see an agricultural area that once produced
the best cantaloupe produce in the nation which has been reduced to a
dried up wasteland
No, that road traverses potato, hops and barley growing country in the
high altitude San Luis Valley, not melon farms.
And it has not "dried up" yet - their artesian wells remain active and
abundant despite constant efforts to sell the water rights off to Denver.
Something Dipshit Lamm jumped into with both webbed feet!
You have conflated this trip with US Hwy. 50 out through Rocky Ford, La
Junta and Lamar - all in the southeastern plains.
https://dtdapps.coloradodot.info/staticdata/Maps/Documents/fp_COMAP%201.pdf
No. The area I remember near Buena Vista even has a roadside "scenic
pulloff" where a sign explains why the valley is in a dried up state due
to a diversion project that sent water from the valley to Colorado
Springs and Pueblo. It was formerly an agricultural area.
Hey! I live there. It's hot today.
Post by Lucas McCain
https://www.kunc.org/environment/2021-07-16/a-massive-plumbing-system-moves-water-across-colorados-mountains-but-this-year-theres-less-to-go-around
You also know that melons are not the cash crop there.
Weed is now...LOL
Which is all grown inside under lock and key - those grow houses have a
an eerie glow at night.
Post by Skeeter
Post by Loran
https://www.palmerland.org/blog/history-of-agriculture-in-southern-colorado
How's the new hot springs doing, been up for a soak?
Not is a while.
This new one looks nicer than the Mt. Princeton by the river ones.
Post by Skeeter
Post by Loran
https://www.chaffeecountytimes.com/news/charlotte-hot-springs-opens-soaking-pools/article_72446d34-99e1-11ee-8bbc-ef6c152568a7.html
The concept for Charlotte Hot Springs and Botanical Gardens, named after
Merrifield?s grandmother, an early resident of the area, has been a long
time coming.
?We started utilizing the geothermal water back in ?69, ?70. Then in
?85, we expanded and started using more of the hot springs? water and
built these three large greenhouses,? Merrifield said. ?Things really
started rolling in the year 2000. We started getting together a plan for
the county, a planned unit development, approved in 2003. So we?ve
really been at this for 23 years.?
Skeeter
2024-06-07 22:14:10 UTC
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Post by Loran
Post by Skeeter
Post by Loran
Post by Skeeter
says...
Post by Lucas McCain
Post by Loran
Post by Lucas McCain
Whenever I drive between Pegosa Springs and Denver on Highway 285 in
Colorado, I weep when I see an agricultural area that once produced
the best cantaloupe produce in the nation which has been reduced to a
dried up wasteland
No, that road traverses potato, hops and barley growing country in the
high altitude San Luis Valley, not melon farms.
And it has not "dried up" yet - their artesian wells remain active and
abundant despite constant efforts to sell the water rights off to Denver.
Something Dipshit Lamm jumped into with both webbed feet!
You have conflated this trip with US Hwy. 50 out through Rocky Ford, La
Junta and Lamar - all in the southeastern plains.
https://dtdapps.coloradodot.info/staticdata/Maps/Documents/fp_COMAP%201.pdf
No. The area I remember near Buena Vista even has a roadside "scenic
pulloff" where a sign explains why the valley is in a dried up state due
to a diversion project that sent water from the valley to Colorado
Springs and Pueblo. It was formerly an agricultural area.
Hey! I live there. It's hot today.
Post by Lucas McCain
https://www.kunc.org/environment/2021-07-16/a-massive-plumbing-system-moves-water-across-colorados-mountains-but-this-year-theres-less-to-go-around
You also know that melons are not the cash crop there.
Weed is now...LOL
Which is all grown inside under lock and key - those grow houses have a
an eerie glow at night.
There are some outdoor grows. Maggies Farm was all outdoor. 2 years ago
we had a late freeze that killed some grows and the prices went up a
tad.
Post by Loran
Post by Skeeter
Post by Loran
https://www.palmerland.org/blog/history-of-agriculture-in-southern-colorado
How's the new hot springs doing, been up for a soak?
Not is a while.
This new one looks nicer than the Mt. Princeton by the river ones.
We got one right outside town that is nude except on Tuesdays. I don't
go, this is a retirement town so I know what the women look like.
Post by Loran
Post by Skeeter
Post by Loran
https://www.chaffeecountytimes.com/news/charlotte-hot-springs-opens-soaking-pools/article_72446d34-99e1-11ee-8bbc-ef6c152568a7.html
The concept for Charlotte Hot Springs and Botanical Gardens, named after
Merrifield?s grandmother, an early resident of the area, has been a long
time coming.
?We started utilizing the geothermal water back in ?69, ?70. Then in
?85, we expanded and started using more of the hot springs? water and
built these three large greenhouses,? Merrifield said. ?Things really
started rolling in the year 2000. We started getting together a plan for
the county, a planned unit development, approved in 2003. So we?ve
really been at this for 23 years.?
Loran
2024-06-08 14:37:30 UTC
Permalink
Post by Skeeter
Post by Loran
Post by Skeeter
Post by Loran
Post by Skeeter
says...
Post by Lucas McCain
Post by Loran
Post by Lucas McCain
Whenever I drive between Pegosa Springs and Denver on Highway 285 in
Colorado, I weep when I see an agricultural area that once produced
the best cantaloupe produce in the nation which has been reduced to a
dried up wasteland
No, that road traverses potato, hops and barley growing country in the
high altitude San Luis Valley, not melon farms.
And it has not "dried up" yet - their artesian wells remain active and
abundant despite constant efforts to sell the water rights off to Denver.
Something Dipshit Lamm jumped into with both webbed feet!
You have conflated this trip with US Hwy. 50 out through Rocky Ford, La
Junta and Lamar - all in the southeastern plains.
https://dtdapps.coloradodot.info/staticdata/Maps/Documents/fp_COMAP%201.pdf
No. The area I remember near Buena Vista even has a roadside "scenic
pulloff" where a sign explains why the valley is in a dried up state due
to a diversion project that sent water from the valley to Colorado
Springs and Pueblo. It was formerly an agricultural area.
Hey! I live there. It's hot today.
Post by Lucas McCain
https://www.kunc.org/environment/2021-07-16/a-massive-plumbing-system-moves-water-across-colorados-mountains-but-this-year-theres-less-to-go-around
You also know that melons are not the cash crop there.
Weed is now...LOL
Which is all grown inside under lock and key - those grow houses have a
an eerie glow at night.
There are some outdoor grows. Maggies Farm was all outdoor. 2 years ago
we had a late freeze that killed some grows and the prices went up a
tad.
Post by Loran
Post by Skeeter
Post by Loran
https://www.palmerland.org/blog/history-of-agriculture-in-southern-colorado
How's the new hot springs doing, been up for a soak?
Not is a while.
This new one looks nicer than the Mt. Princeton by the river ones.
We got one right outside town that is nude except on Tuesdays. I don't
go, this is a retirement town so I know what the women look like.
I totally can envision the folds!
Post by Skeeter
Post by Loran
Post by Skeeter
Post by Loran
https://www.chaffeecountytimes.com/news/charlotte-hot-springs-opens-soaking-pools/article_72446d34-99e1-11ee-8bbc-ef6c152568a7.html
The concept for Charlotte Hot Springs and Botanical Gardens, named after
Merrifield?s grandmother, an early resident of the area, has been a long
time coming.
?We started utilizing the geothermal water back in ?69, ?70. Then in
?85, we expanded and started using more of the hot springs? water and
built these three large greenhouses,? Merrifield said. ?Things really
started rolling in the year 2000. We started getting together a plan for
the county, a planned unit development, approved in 2003. So we?ve
really been at this for 23 years.?
Loran
2024-06-07 18:14:47 UTC
Permalink
Post by Lucas McCain
Post by Loran
Post by Lucas McCain
Whenever I drive between Pegosa Springs and Denver on Highway 285 in
Colorado, I weep when I see an agricultural area that once produced
the best cantaloupe produce in the nation which has been reduced to a
dried up wasteland
No, that road traverses potato, hops and barley growing country in the
high altitude San Luis Valley, not melon farms.
And it has not "dried up" yet - their artesian wells remain active and
abundant despite constant efforts to sell the water rights off to Denver.
Something Dipshit Lamm jumped into with both webbed feet!
You have conflated this trip with US Hwy. 50 out through Rocky Ford,
La Junta and Lamar - all in the southeastern plains.
https://dtdapps.coloradodot.info/staticdata/Maps/Documents/fp_COMAP%201.pdf
No. The area I remember near Buena Vista even has a roadside "scenic
pulloff" where a sign explains why the valley is in a dried up state due
to a diversion project that sent water from the valley to Colorado
Springs and Pueblo.  It was formerly an agricultural area.
https://www.kunc.org/environment/2021-07-16/a-massive-plumbing-system-moves-water-across-colorados-mountains-but-this-year-theres-less-to-go-around
Old news for that area, also they do not grow much in the way of melons
there - too high in altitude:

"About 80% of Colorado’s water falls on the western side of the state.
Much of it is high-mountain snow and rain that eventually trickles down
into streams and rivers like the ones on Independence Pass.

But about 80% of Colorado’s people live on the east side of the
mountains. Because of gravity, that water doesn’t flow to them
naturally. Instead, Colorado’s heavily-populated Front Range relies on a
massive plumbing system to keep drinking water flowing to its taps.

For a century and a half, engineers have carved up the mountains with
tunnels and canals that pipe water across the state through
trans-mountain diversions. Some of that infrastructure is nestled near
the high-alpine headwaters of the Roaring Fork River, which eventually
flows through Aspen and Glenwood Springs on its way to the Colorado
River. Near Lost Man reservoir, a dam and tunnel create a juncture
between water that will follow that natural path westward to the
Colorado, and water that will be diverted eastward through the mountains
and onto cities such as Colorado Springs."

As for ag:

https://www.palmerland.org/blog/history-of-agriculture-in-southern-colorado

"In Colorado, Indigenous peoples contended with limited precipitation by
building dams, canals, and terraces to irrigate food crops in the desert
Southwest, including parts of the Arkansas River Valley. When
Anglo-Americans arrived in Colorado, they found plains tribes growing
the three sisters: corn, beans, and squash.


Chaffee County

In the 1920s, Buena Vista became known as the “Head Lettuce Capital of
the World.” Lettuce is well-suited to Chaffee County’s short growing
season, and Buena Vista benefited from other favorable conditions—ice
and transportation. During winter and spring, workers cut large blocks
of ice from Franklin Reservoir, better known as Ice Lake, which supplied
millions of pounds of ice that kept lettuce cold during transport to
East Coast markets via the nearby Denver and Rio Grande rail line.

G.D. Isabel deserves much of the credit for Chaffee County’s
once-burgeoning lettuce industry. In 1918, he rented 10 acres on the
Burleson Farm near Buena Vista. Later that year, he harvested enough
lettuce to fill a train car, earning him approximately $7,000. By 1921,
local lettuce growers had organized the Colorado Co-operative Lettuce
Growers’ Association at Buena Vista, which also handled other produce
like peas and cauliflower.

Lettuce is still grown in the region, along with produce like squash,
carrots, broccoli, and herbs. Farm commodity sales in Chaffee County
total $12,237,000 annually. But now hay, including alfalfa, dominates
the county’s crop production, and most of the hay which supports the
area’s cattle ranching."

So no real ag disaster there, just a transition to the rafting industry
and hospitality.
KWills
2024-06-07 08:16:48 UTC
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On Thu, 6 Jun 2024 09:55:19 -0600, Loran <***@invalid.net> wrote:

[...]
Post by Loran
Post by Lucas McCain
and to
your second point, one can't provide critical proofs and citations per a
future that has yet to come to pass.
Wrong again - see Revelations.
<Pedantic mode>

It's Revelation.

</mode>

--
KWills
Strategic Writer,
Psychotronic World Dominator.
And FEMA camp counselor.
Loran
2024-06-07 18:39:49 UTC
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Post by KWills
[...]
Post by Loran
Post by Lucas McCain
and to
your second point, one can't provide critical proofs and citations per a
future that has yet to come to pass.
Wrong again - see Revelations.
<Pedantic mode>
It's Revelation.
</mode>
--
KWills
Strategic Writer,
Psychotronic World Dominator.
And FEMA camp counselor.
And:

https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/chapter/8/verse/18

The cosmic play of the various planes of existence in the universe is
astounding. The fourteen worlds and their planetary systems undergo
repeated cycles of sṛiṣhṭi, sthiti, and pralaya (creation, preservation,
and dissolution). All planetary systems, up to the Mahar Lok, are
destroyed at the end of a kalp; that is Brahma’s day of 4.32 billion
years. This partial dissolution is called naimittik pralaya. When
Shukdev Paramhans narrated the Shrimad Bhagavatam to Parikshit, he
stated that Brahma creates these worlds similar to a child playing with
his toys. A child builds structures with his toys during the day and
pulls them apart before going to bed at night. Similarly, when Brahma
wakes up, he creates the planetary systems and their life forms and
dissolves them before going to sleep.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/evidence-for-a-flood-102813115/

"...the fountains of the great deep [were] broken up, and the windows of
the heavens were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty days and
forty nights."

This quote from the Book of Genesis is part of a familiar tale — the
story of Noah's flood. Scholars have known for a long time that the
Bible isn't the only place this story is found — in fact, the biblical
story is similar to a much older Mesopotamian flood story in the epic of
Gilgamesh. Scholars usually attribute things like the worldwide
occurrence of flood stories to common human experiences and our love of
repeating good stories, but recently scientists have started to uncover
evidence that Noah's flood may have a basis in some rather astonishing
events that took place around the Black Sea some 7,500 years ago.

https://www.litcharts.com/lit/the-epic-of-gilgamesh/part-5-the-story-of-the-flood

This chapter consists of the story that Utnapishtim tells Gilgamesh. It
begins in Shurrupak, a city built along the Euphrates river. The city
was growing quickly. The god Enlil hears the sounds of the city and
complains that it’s impossible to sleep because of all the noise. The
gods agree to wipe out all the mortals. Enlil attempts to do so, but the
god Ea appears in Utnapishtim’s dream and warns him to take apart his
house and build a boat of specific dimensions.
KWills
2024-06-06 07:51:52 UTC
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Post by Loran
Post by Lucas McCain
Post by Loran
Post by Lucas McCain
Withe regard to Georgia Guide Stones
Post by Loran
Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
Excellent commandment.
How about the 500 million cull, you down with that level of person
shrinkage/genocide?
From my own observations while traveling in foreign lands, I'd say 500
million is still too many humans if the planet is to be given a chance
to support all life in the long term.
1. wrong
Possible.
Post by Loran
2. in deficit of critical proofs and citations
How would Lucas offer proof and citations for a personal
observation?
Post by Loran
Post by Lucas McCain
I would not personally involve
myself with some cull on moral grounds, but I do believe that there are
far too many humans for the planet to support long term without
degrading the planet to the point that the living would envy the dead.
Water is the defining measure, and we're about to get a lot more of that
soon!
How? Are you expecting an ice comet to land on earth?
Post by Loran
Post by Lucas McCain
In the 1970's there was a "back to the land" movement and a zero
population growth (ZPG) movement that got hijacked by Chamber of
Commerce types who felt otherwise and seemed to have been able to buy
off politicians to push for unsustainable growth.
ZPG and Paul Eehrlich were propagandists whose predictions all failed.
ZPG isn't a prediction.
Post by Loran
Let's face facts here, the Georgia Guidestones contained the recipe for
genocide that Covid started and the Dems are planning to finish.
Unlikely. Most accept that it was to be a means of running the
world after a nuclear war. In that context, the stones made sense.

--
KWills
Strategic Writer,
Psychotronic World Dominator.
And FEMA camp counselor.
CaLaVeRa
2024-06-06 14:38:26 UTC
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Post by KWills
Post by Loran
ZPG and Paul Eehrlich were propagandists whose predictions all failed.
ZPG isn't a prediction.
It most certainly was a failed one:

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/book-incited-worldwide-fear-overpopulation-180967499/

As 1968 began, Paul Ehrlich was an entomologist at Stanford University,
known to his peers for his groundbreaking studies of the co-evolution of
flowering plants and butterflies but almost unknown to the average
person. That was about to change. In May, Ehrlich released a quickly
written, cheaply bound paperback, The Population Bomb. Initially it was
ignored. But over time Ehrlich’s tract would sell millions of copies and
turn its author into a celebrity. It would become one of the most
influential books of the 20th century—and one of the most heatedly attacked.

The first sentence set the tone: “The battle to feed all of humanity is
over.” And humanity had lost. In the 1970s, the book promised, “hundreds
of millions of people are going to starve to death.” No matter what
people do, “nothing can prevent a substantial increase in the world
death rate.”

Published at a time of tremendous conflict and social upheaval,
Ehrlich’s book argued that many of the day’s most alarming events had a
single, underlying cause: Too many people, packed into too-tight spaces,
taking too much from the earth. Unless humanity cut down its
numbers—soon—all of us would face “mass starvation” on “a dying planet.”

Ehrlich, now 85, told me recently that the book’s main contribution was
to make population control “acceptable” as “a topic to debate.” But the
book did far more than that. It gave a huge jolt to the nascent
environmental movement and fueled an anti-population-growth crusade that
led to human rights abuses around the world.
Loran
2024-06-06 15:46:28 UTC
Permalink
Post by KWills
Post by Loran
Post by Lucas McCain
Post by Loran
Post by Lucas McCain
Withe regard to Georgia Guide Stones
Post by Loran
Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
Excellent commandment.
How about the 500 million cull, you down with that level of person
shrinkage/genocide?
From my own observations while traveling in foreign lands, I'd say 500
million is still too many humans if the planet is to be given a chance
to support all life in the long term.
1. wrong
Possible.
Post by Loran
2. in deficit of critical proofs and citations
How would Lucas offer proof and citations for a personal
observation?
With supportive citations from said places, duh.

And then expansion of the micro cases into the macro, duh.
Post by KWills
Post by Loran
Post by Lucas McCain
I would not personally involve
myself with some cull on moral grounds, but I do believe that there are
far too many humans for the planet to support long term without
degrading the planet to the point that the living would envy the dead.
Water is the defining measure, and we're about to get a lot more of that
soon!
How? Are you expecting an ice comet to land on earth?
That has happened before and will again.

Rev. 8: 10-12


“The third angel sounded his trumpet, and a great star, blazing like a
torch, fell from the sky on a third of the rivers and on the springs of
water—the name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters turned
bitter, and many people died from the waters that had become bitter.”
Post by KWills
Post by Loran
Post by Lucas McCain
In the 1970's there was a "back to the land" movement and a zero
population growth (ZPG) movement that got hijacked by Chamber of
Commerce types who felt otherwise and seemed to have been able to buy
off politicians to push for unsustainable growth.
ZPG and Paul Eehrlich were propagandists whose predictions all failed.
ZPG isn't a prediction.
Post by Loran
Let's face facts here, the Georgia Guidestones contained the recipe for
genocide that Covid started and the Dems are planning to finish.
Unlikely. Most accept that it was to be a means of running the
world after a nuclear war.
No, there is no "most", that's a fictional appeal to a consensus
definition of the guidestones' purpose and authorship where none exists.
KWills
2024-06-07 08:16:41 UTC
Permalink
Post by Loran
Post by KWills
Post by Loran
Post by Lucas McCain
Post by Loran
Post by Lucas McCain
Withe regard to Georgia Guide Stones
Post by Loran
Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
Excellent commandment.
How about the 500 million cull, you down with that level of person
shrinkage/genocide?
From my own observations while traveling in foreign lands, I'd say 500
million is still too many humans if the planet is to be given a chance
to support all life in the long term.
1. wrong
Possible.
Post by Loran
2. in deficit of critical proofs and citations
How would Lucas offer proof and citations for a personal
observation?
With supportive citations from said places, duh.
So these places can confirm an observation?
Post by Loran
And then expansion of the micro cases into the macro, duh.
Ibid.
Post by Loran
Post by KWills
Post by Loran
Post by Lucas McCain
I would not personally involve
myself with some cull on moral grounds, but I do believe that there are
far too many humans for the planet to support long term without
degrading the planet to the point that the living would envy the dead.
Water is the defining measure, and we're about to get a lot more of that
soon!
How? Are you expecting an ice comet to land on earth?
That has happened before and will again.
Rev. 8: 10-12
“The third angel sounded his trumpet, and a great star, blazing like a
torch, fell from the sky on a third of the rivers and on the springs of
water—the name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters turned
bitter, and many people died from the waters that had become bitter.”
That you believe the Bible is all well and good. But nothing in
the passage you quote is about getting more water. It's about a third
of the water already present being poisonous.
Post by Loran
Post by KWills
Post by Loran
Post by Lucas McCain
In the 1970's there was a "back to the land" movement and a zero
population growth (ZPG) movement that got hijacked by Chamber of
Commerce types who felt otherwise and seemed to have been able to buy
off politicians to push for unsustainable growth.
ZPG and Paul Eehrlich were propagandists whose predictions all failed.
ZPG isn't a prediction.
Post by Loran
Let's face facts here, the Georgia Guidestones contained the recipe for
genocide that Covid started and the Dems are planning to finish.
Unlikely. Most accept that it was to be a means of running the
world after a nuclear war.
No, there is no "most", that's a fictional appeal to a consensus
definition of the guidestones' purpose and authorship where none exists.
Poor word choice on my part. Perhaps 'many' is a better word to
use. If you want to get real picky, 'some' can be used.
No one, except those who designed them, can KNOW what was
intended. We can come to a conclusion based on the evidence available.
And a means to help ensure the world continues is a reasonable
conclusion.
They were made during the 'cold war.' Nuclear war was possible.
Had it happened, the population of the earth would be decreased. Not
just from the initial explosions, but from the fallout and continued
radioactivity.

--
KWills
Strategic Writer,
Psychotronic World Dominator.
And FEMA camp counselor.
Loran
2024-06-07 18:33:35 UTC
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Post by KWills
Post by Loran
Post by KWills
Post by Loran
Post by Lucas McCain
Post by Loran
Post by Lucas McCain
Withe regard to Georgia Guide Stones
Post by Loran
Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
Excellent commandment.
How about the 500 million cull, you down with that level of person
shrinkage/genocide?
From my own observations while traveling in foreign lands, I'd say 500
million is still too many humans if the planet is to be given a chance
to support all life in the long term.
1. wrong
Possible.
Post by Loran
2. in deficit of critical proofs and citations
How would Lucas offer proof and citations for a personal
observation?
With supportive citations from said places, duh.
So these places can confirm an observation?
One would have to hope so, generally speaking.

Things are either as he observed or not.
Post by KWills
Post by Loran
And then expansion of the micro cases into the macro, duh.
Ibid.
Ipso facto.
Post by KWills
Post by Loran
Post by KWills
Post by Loran
Post by Lucas McCain
I would not personally involve
myself with some cull on moral grounds, but I do believe that there are
far too many humans for the planet to support long term without
degrading the planet to the point that the living would envy the dead.
Water is the defining measure, and we're about to get a lot more of that
soon!
How? Are you expecting an ice comet to land on earth?
That has happened before and will again.
Rev. 8: 10-12
“The third angel sounded his trumpet, and a great star, blazing like a
torch, fell from the sky on a third of the rivers and on the springs of
water—the name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters turned
bitter, and many people died from the waters that had become bitter.”
That you believe the Bible is all well and good.
It's by far not just the Bible.

It's in most major faith's histories.
Post by KWills
But nothing in
the passage you quote is about getting more water. It's about a third
of the water already present being poisonous.
The water overflows and floods = more water.

Cometary and planetary bodies do have water.

Study Tiamat.
Post by KWills
Post by Loran
Post by KWills
Post by Loran
Post by Lucas McCain
In the 1970's there was a "back to the land" movement and a zero
population growth (ZPG) movement that got hijacked by Chamber of
Commerce types who felt otherwise and seemed to have been able to buy
off politicians to push for unsustainable growth.
ZPG and Paul Eehrlich were propagandists whose predictions all failed.
ZPG isn't a prediction.
Post by Loran
Let's face facts here, the Georgia Guidestones contained the recipe for
genocide that Covid started and the Dems are planning to finish.
Unlikely. Most accept that it was to be a means of running the
world after a nuclear war.
No, there is no "most", that's a fictional appeal to a consensus
definition of the guidestones' purpose and authorship where none exists.
Poor word choice on my part. Perhaps 'many' is a better word to
use. If you want to get real picky, 'some' can be used.
No one, except those who designed them, can KNOW what was
intended.
Wrong.

The builder obtained bank financing for this project, others knew plenty
and remained silent.
Post by KWills
We can come to a conclusion based on the evidence available.
And a means to help ensure the world continues is a reasonable
conclusion.
Not by genocide it's not!

Are you insane??
Post by KWills
They were made during the 'cold war.'
Bzzzznt!!!

Wrong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones

Construction
In June 1979, a man using the pseudonym Robert C. Christian approached
the Elberton Granite Finishing Company on behalf of "a small group of
loyal Americans", and commissioned the structure. Christian explained
that the stones would function as a compass, calendar, and clock, and
should be capable of "withstanding catastrophic events".[1] The man
reportedly used the pseudonym as a reference to the Christian
religion.[2][11] Christian said that he wanted to build a granite
monument that would rival the British Neolithic monument Stonehenge,
which he drew inspiration from after paying it a visit.[12][13] However,
he said that while it was impressive, Stonehenge had no message to
communicate.[13]

Joe Fendley of Elberton Granite believed that Christian was "a nut" and
he attempted to discourage him by providing a price quote for the
commission which was several times higher than any project which the
company had previously undertaken, explaining that the construction of
the guidestones would require additional tools and consultants. To
Fendley's surprise, Christian accepted the quote.[1] When arranging
payment, Christian claimed that he represented a group which had been
planning to construct the guidestones for 20 years and wanted to remain
anonymous.[1] Christian said he had chosen Elbert County because of its
abundance of local granite, the rural nature of its landscape, its mild
climate, and family ties to the region.[2][14][4] The total cost of the
project was not revealed, but it was over US$100,000 (equivalent to
$400,000 in 2023).[4]

Christian delivered a scale model of the guidestones and ten pages of
specifications.[1] The 5-acre (2-hectare) site was purchased by
Christian from a local farm owner.[15] The owner and his children were
given lifetime cattle grazing rights on the guidestones site.[1] The
monument was located off Georgia State Route 77 around 7 miles (11 km)
north of the city of Elberton.[16][17][18]

On March 22, 1980, the monument was unveiled by congressman Doug Barnard
before an audience of between 200 and 300 people.[13][2] At the
unveiling, the Master of Ceremonies read a message to the gathered audience:

In order to avoid debate, we the sponsors of the Georgia Guidestones
have a simple message for human beings, now and for the future. We
believe our precepts are sound, and they must stand on their own merits.

— Purported statement of Georgia Guidestones sponsors[14]
Christian later transferred ownership of the land and the guidestones to
Elbert County.[15] By 1981, barbed wire fencing had to be erected around
the monument to keep cattle out, as they had been using it for a
scratching post.[4]

A man who identified himself as Robert Christian published a book titled
Common Sense Renewed (1986), which described the ideology of the
guidestones. The author wrote:

I am the originator of the Georgia Guidestones and the sole author of
its inscriptions. I have had the assistance of a number of other
American citizens in bringing the monument into being. We have no
mysterious purposes or ulterior motives. We seek common sense pathways
to a peaceful world, without bias for particular creeds or philosophies.

— "Robert Christian" (1986)[19]
Post by KWills
Nuclear war was possible.
Had it happened, the population of the earth would be decreased. Not
just from the initial explosions, but from the fallout and continued
radioactivity.
--
KWills
Strategic Writer,
Psychotronic World Dominator.
And FEMA camp counselor.
Their warnings were not couched in that nomenclature nor representative
of the bunker mentality of the cold war, of course.

You should study up before you pop off again, pal.
KWills
2024-06-08 07:31:37 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 7 Jun 2024 12:33:35 -0600, Loran <***@invalid.net> wrote:

[Snips to focus on this one point.]
Post by Loran
Post by KWills
They were made during the 'cold war.'
Bzzzznt!!!
Wrong.
The cold war occurred from 1947 to 1991.
You may read more here, if you wish:

https://www.history.com/topics/cold-war/cold-war-history

--
KWills
Strategic Writer,
Psychotronic World Dominator.
And FEMA camp counselor.
Loran
2024-06-08 14:51:38 UTC
Permalink
Post by KWills
The cold war occurred from 1947 to 1991.
Not one aspect of the Georgia Guidestones history contains a single cold
war reference, period.

Wise up.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones

Construction
In June 1979, a man using the pseudonym Robert C. Christian approached
the Elberton Granite Finishing Company on behalf of "a small group of
loyal Americans", and commissioned the structure. Christian explained
that the stones would function as a compass, calendar, and clock, and
should be capable of "withstanding catastrophic events".[1] The man
reportedly used the pseudonym as a reference to the Christian
religion.[2][11] Christian said that he wanted to build a granite
monument that would rival the British Neolithic monument Stonehenge,
which he drew inspiration from after paying it a visit.[12][13] However,
he said that while it was impressive, Stonehenge had no message to
communicate.[13]

Joe Fendley of Elberton Granite believed that Christian was "a nut" and
he attempted to discourage him by providing a price quote for the
commission which was several times higher than any project which the
company had previously undertaken, explaining that the construction of
the guidestones would require additional tools and consultants. To
Fendley's surprise, Christian accepted the quote.[1] When arranging
payment, Christian claimed that he represented a group which had been
planning to construct the guidestones for 20 years and wanted to remain
anonymous.[1] Christian said he had chosen Elbert County because of its
abundance of local granite, the rural nature of its landscape, its mild
climate, and family ties to the region.[2][14][4] The total cost of the
project was not revealed, but it was over US$100,000 (equivalent to
$400,000 in 2023).[4]

Christian delivered a scale model of the guidestones and ten pages of
specifications.[1] The 5-acre (2-hectare) site was purchased by
Christian from a local farm owner.[15] The owner and his children were
given lifetime cattle grazing rights on the guidestones site.[1] The
monument was located off Georgia State Route 77 around 7 miles (11 km)
north of the city of Elberton.[16][17][18]

On March 22, 1980, the monument was unveiled by congressman Doug Barnard
before an audience of between 200 and 300 people.[13][2] At the
unveiling, the Master of Ceremonies read a message to the gathered audience:

In order to avoid debate, we the sponsors of the Georgia Guidestones
have a simple message for human beings, now and for the future. We
believe our precepts are sound, and they must stand on their own merits.

— Purported statement of Georgia Guidestones sponsors[14]
Christian later transferred ownership of the land and the guidestones to
Elbert County.[15] By 1981, barbed wire fencing had to be erected around
the monument to keep cattle out, as they had been using it for a
scratching post.[4]

A man who identified himself as Robert Christian published a book titled
Common Sense Renewed (1986), which described the ideology of the
guidestones. The author wrote:

I am the originator of the Georgia Guidestones and the sole author of
its inscriptions. I have had the assistance of a number of other
American citizens in bringing the monument into being. We have no
mysterious purposes or ulterior motives. We seek common sense pathways
to a peaceful world, without bias for particular creeds or philosophies.

— "Robert Christian" (1986)[19]

And stop snipping the facts!
KWills
2024-06-09 03:37:46 UTC
Permalink
On Sat, 8 Jun 2024 08:51:38 -0600, Loran <***@invalid.net> wrote:


The context you hate and fear has been restored at no additional cost.
Post by Loran
Post by KWills
[Snips to focus on this one point.]
Post by Loran
Post by KWills
They were made during the 'cold war.'
Bzzzznt!!!
Wrong.
The cold war occurred from 1947 to 1991.
Not one aspect of the Georgia Guidestones history contains a single cold
war reference, period.
And I made no claim they did. Only that they were made during the
'cold war,' as seen above. This is why there are people who think they
were in regards to a world after a nuclear war.
Your fear of truth and honesty won't change this. No amount of
your dishonestly changing your claim, and snipping away that which
proves you a liar, will change this.
Post by Loran
Wise up.
The stones were made in 1979. They were unveiled in 1980. During
the 'cold war.' You can run away from the truth as much as you feel
you need. Reality will not change as a result.
Since you've proved you cannot be honest, there is no point in my
continuing a discussion with you. Feel free to post whatever
deception(s) you feel you must, secure in the knowledge that I will
not be the one to prove you've lied.
You may even claim victory, if your dishonest nature demands it.

--
KWills
Strategic Writer,
Psychotronic World Dominator.
And FEMA camp counselor.
Loran
2024-06-09 17:24:35 UTC
Permalink
Post by KWills
The context you hate and fear has been restored at no additional cost.
The high ground you think you have claimed is just reclaimed blather.
Post by KWills
Post by Loran
Post by KWills
[Snips to focus on this one point.]
Post by Loran
Post by KWills
They were made during the 'cold war.'
Bzzzznt!!!
Wrong.
The cold war occurred from 1947 to 1991.
Not one aspect of the Georgia Guidestones history contains a single cold
war reference, period.
And I made no claim they did. Only that they were made during the
'cold war,' as seen above.
Implication (an obvious one too) confirmed!
Post by KWills
This is why there are people who think they
were in regards to a world after a nuclear war.
Think they were what?
Post by KWills
Your fear of truth and honesty won't change this. No amount of
your dishonestly changing your claim, and snipping away that which
proves you a liar, will change this.
I think you're having an excess Adderal moment here.
Post by KWills
Post by Loran
Wise up.
The stones were made in 1979. They were unveiled in 1980. During
the 'cold war.' You can run away from the truth as much as you feel
you need. Reality will not change as a result.
Correlation is far from causation as no record of their being a cold war
harbinger or predictor were ever made.
Post by KWills
Since you've proved you cannot be honest, there is no point in my
continuing a discussion with you. Feel free to post whatever
deception(s) you feel you must, secure in the knowledge that I will
not be the one to prove you've lied.
Iow run away bravely, Sir Robin.

Ta.
Post by KWills
You may even claim victory, if your dishonest nature demands it.
--
KWills
Strategic Writer,
Psychotronic World Dominator.
And FEMA camp counselor.
I think you have delusions of adequacy.

KWills
2024-06-06 07:51:03 UTC
Permalink
Post by Loran
Post by Lucas McCain
Withe regard to Georgia Guide Stones
Post by Loran
Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
Excellent commandment.
How about the 500 million cull, you down with that level of person
shrinkage/genocide?
It's thought the population number is what was to have roughly
remained after a nuclear war. It would be far easier to maintain that
level after such a war. Hopefully we'll never have cause to actually
KNOW if it would be far easier or not.

--
KWills
Strategic Writer,
Psychotronic World Dominator.
And FEMA camp counselor.
CaLaVeRa
2024-06-06 14:36:28 UTC
Permalink
Post by KWills
Post by Loran
Post by Lucas McCain
Withe regard to Georgia Guide Stones
Post by Loran
Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
Excellent commandment.
How about the 500 million cull, you down with that level of person
shrinkage/genocide?
It's thought the population number is what was to have roughly
remained after a nuclear war.
The now demolitioned guidestones made no mention of such.
Post by KWills
It would be far easier to maintain that
level after such a war.
Along with mutations and disease efficacy, true.
Post by KWills
Hopefully we'll never have cause to actually
KNOW if it would be far easier or not.
Hope in one hand and shit in the other, see which fills up first.

Covid was just a test balloon.
KWills
2024-06-07 08:15:53 UTC
Permalink
Post by CaLaVeRa
Post by KWills
Post by Loran
Post by Lucas McCain
Withe regard to Georgia Guide Stones
Post by Loran
Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
Excellent commandment.
How about the 500 million cull, you down with that level of person
shrinkage/genocide?
It's thought the population number is what was to have roughly
remained after a nuclear war.
The now demolitioned guidestones made no mention of such.
Which is why I pointed out *it's thought.*
Bar someone who was involved in designing them telling the world
what was intended, a thought is about as good as anyone can get.
Post by CaLaVeRa
Post by KWills
It would be far easier to maintain that
level after such a war.
Along with mutations and disease efficacy, true.
Yep.
Post by CaLaVeRa
Post by KWills
Hopefully we'll never have cause to actually
KNOW if it would be far easier or not.
Hope in one hand and shit in the other, see which fills up first.
Covid was just a test balloon.
Did you study? :)

--
KWills
Strategic Writer,
Psychotronic World Dominator.
And FEMA camp counselor.
CaLaVeRa
2024-06-07 21:53:05 UTC
Permalink
Post by KWills
Post by CaLaVeRa
Post by KWills
Post by Loran
Post by Lucas McCain
Withe regard to Georgia Guide Stones
Post by Loran
Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
Excellent commandment.
How about the 500 million cull, you down with that level of person
shrinkage/genocide?
It's thought the population number is what was to have roughly
remained after a nuclear war.
The now demolitioned guidestones made no mention of such.
Which is why I pointed out *it's thought.*
Bar someone who was involved in designing them telling the world
what was intended, a thought is about as good as anyone can get.
They went up in 1979, not really our key concern at that time.
Post by KWills
Post by CaLaVeRa
Post by KWills
It would be far easier to maintain that
level after such a war.
Along with mutations and disease efficacy, true.
Yep.
Illuminati Island of Dr. Moreau
Post by KWills
Post by CaLaVeRa
Post by KWills
Hopefully we'll never have cause to actually
KNOW if it would be far easier or not.
Hope in one hand and shit in the other, see which fills up first.
Covid was just a test balloon.
Did you study? :)
Nah, I skipped out but aced the PCR levels easy.

I only study for finals.
KWills
2024-06-08 07:31:09 UTC
Permalink
Post by CaLaVeRa
Post by KWills
Post by CaLaVeRa
Post by KWills
Post by Loran
Post by Lucas McCain
Withe regard to Georgia Guide Stones
Post by Loran
Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
Excellent commandment.
How about the 500 million cull, you down with that level of person
shrinkage/genocide?
It's thought the population number is what was to have roughly
remained after a nuclear war.
The now demolitioned guidestones made no mention of such.
Which is why I pointed out *it's thought.*
Bar someone who was involved in designing them telling the world
what was intended, a thought is about as good as anyone can get.
They went up in 1979, not really our key concern at that time.
Maybe not everyone's concern.
Post by CaLaVeRa
Post by KWills
Post by CaLaVeRa
Post by KWills
It would be far easier to maintain that
level after such a war.
Along with mutations and disease efficacy, true.
Yep.
Illuminati Island of Dr. Moreau
Post by KWills
Post by CaLaVeRa
Post by KWills
Hopefully we'll never have cause to actually
KNOW if it would be far easier or not.
Hope in one hand and shit in the other, see which fills up first.
Covid was just a test balloon.
Did you study? :)
Nah, I skipped out but aced the PCR levels easy.
I only study for finals.
I remember those days :)

--
KWills
Strategic Writer,
Psychotronic World Dominator.
And FEMA camp counselor.
Loran
2024-06-05 20:23:26 UTC
Permalink
Post by Lucas McCain
Withe regard to Georgia Guide Stones
Post by Loran
Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
Excellent commandment.
Nice if we could hold it there, sure.

Giverment is a self-enriching, self-replicating monster of monolithic
control.
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