Discussion:
Baden Powell's 'My adventures as a spy'
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Thomas Heger
2018-02-13 20:14:38 UTC
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Hi NG

among the stranger habits of British 'intelligence' is to allow their
spies to write spy-novells.

VERY strange is this:

http://www.thedump.scoutscan.com/adventures.pdf


This book is worth reading, because it shows a lot about how propaganda
actually works.


I concentrate on a short piece about alleged German plans to invade England:

" With the Straits of Dover so blocked, they could then rush
a fleet of transports across the North Sea from Germany, to
the East Coast of England, either East Anglia or, as in this
plan, to Yorkshire. They had in Germany nine embarking stations,
with piers and platforms, all ready made, and steel lighters for
disembarkation purposes or for actual voyage across the ocean in case of
fine weather.

They had taken the average of the weather for years past, and
had come to the conclusion that July 13th is, on an average, the
finest day in the year; but their attempt would be timed, if possible,
to fall on a Bank Holiday when communications were temporarily
disorganised. Therefore the nearest Bank Holiday
to July 13th would probably be that at the beginning of August..

The spies stationed in England were to cut all telephone and telegraph
wires, and, where possible, to blow down important bridges and tunnels,
and thus to interrupt communications and create confusion.

Their idea of landing on the coast of Yorkshire was based on the
following reasons: —

They did not look upon London as strategically the capital of
England, but rather upon the great industrial centres of the
north Midlands, where, instead of six millions, there are more
like fourteen millions of people assembled in the numerous cities
and towns, which now almost adjoin each other across that part of
the country.

Their theory was that if they could rush as army of even
90,000 men into Leeds, Sheffield, Halifax, Manchester, and Liverpool
without encountering great opposition in the first few hours, they could
there establish themselves in such strength that it would require a
powerful army to drive them out again. "


This is - of course - true nonsense, since there are no piers on the
north western coast of Germany.

There were also no plans or other attempts to invade England.

(In contrast e.g. Hitler let the 300.000 captured English soldiers
return home)


It is also highly unlikely, that Germans had a particular interest in
the midlands.

(I would guess, if the British would auction this area on e-bay today,
they would not get a very high offer.)

So WHY should Germany try to get there? (Liverpool, Manchester ...)


But what is REALLY stunning, that Baden-Powell obviously describes 'd-day'.

Now this would suggest, that English spies had planned d-day way in
advance (30 years actually).


TH
Thomas Heger
2018-02-15 13:40:19 UTC
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Post by Thomas Heger
Hi NG
among the stranger habits of British 'intelligence' is to allow their
spies to write spy-novells.
http://www.thedump.scoutscan.com/adventures.pdf
This book is worth reading, because it shows a lot about how propaganda
actually works.
another interesting subject is the term 'Scouts'.

Baden-Powel uses this as synonym for 'field spies'.

Those are - according to Baden-Powel - a recognized weapon of war.

They face - if caught - certain death, because they are so dangerous.


This wouldn't be much less interesting, if mr. Baden-Powell had not
invented something called 'Scouting for boys'.

Apparently Baden-Powell saw boys as good spies, hence as legitimate
weapon of war (inn case they are willing and able for espionage).


But: To use children as soldiers or similar is, of course, a war crime.

Baden Powell was involved in other war-crimes, too.

Mainly his connection to the 2nd Boer war and the erection and using of
so called 'concentration camps' is questionable.

But there are other questionable connections, too.

A guy named 'Rex Curry' had written a lot about the connection between
Baden-Powel, the Boy Scouts, the 2nd Boer War and the German Nazis.

(see here: http://rexcurry.net/ )

E.g. the uniforms of Nazi stormtroopers called 'SA' looked like a carbon
copy of the British uniforms in the 2nd Boer war.

The boy scouts had also swastikas as batches and also a 'stiff arm salute'.


TH
e***@hotmail.com
2018-02-15 14:19:57 UTC
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I don’t think Baden-Powell specifically wanted boys for spies. Rather, he wanted people trained from boyhood in the fields of survival and woodcraft so that they would be able to make good spies later in life.
KWills Shill #3
2018-02-16 10:15:06 UTC
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Post by Thomas Heger
Post by Thomas Heger
Hi NG
among the stranger habits of British 'intelligence' is to allow their
spies to write spy-novells.
http://www.thedump.scoutscan.com/adventures.pdf
This book is worth reading, because it shows a lot about how propaganda
actually works.
another interesting subject is the term 'Scouts'.
Baden-Powel uses this as synonym for 'field spies'.
When?
Post by Thomas Heger
Those are - according to Baden-Powel - a recognized weapon of war.
They face - if caught - certain death, because they are so dangerous.
This wouldn't be much less interesting, if mr. Baden-Powell had not
invented something called 'Scouting for boys'.
Apparently Baden-Powell saw boys as good spies, hence as legitimate
weapon of war (inn case they are willing and able for espionage).
But: To use children as soldiers or similar is, of course, a war crime.
That wasn't his goal, of course. His goal, as is fairly well
known, was to train boys in various means of survival, tracking, etc.
This would allow them to be better soldiers as adult men.
What do you hope to gain from your deceptive presentation that
his goal was to use children as spies? I really want to know.
Post by Thomas Heger
Baden Powell was involved in other war-crimes, too.
You have yet to name one he committed.
Post by Thomas Heger
Mainly his connection to the 2nd Boer war and the erection and using of
so called 'concentration camps' is questionable.
But there are other questionable connections, too.
A guy named 'Rex Curry' had written a lot about the connection between
Baden-Powel, the Boy Scouts, the 2nd Boer War and the German Nazis.
(see here: http://rexcurry.net/ )
K00k sites are k00k sites.
Post by Thomas Heger
E.g. the uniforms of Nazi stormtroopers called 'SA' looked like a carbon
copy of the British uniforms in the 2nd Boer war.
The boy scouts had also swastikas as batches and also a 'stiff arm salute'.
A lot of the world had a "stiff arm salute" prior to WW2.
Thomas Heger
2018-02-16 16:52:40 UTC
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Post by KWills Shill #3
Post by Thomas Heger
E.g. the uniforms of Nazi stormtroopers called 'SA' looked like a carbon
copy of the British uniforms in the 2nd Boer war.
The boy scouts had also swastikas as batches and also a 'stiff arm salute'.
A lot of the world had a "stiff arm salute" prior to WW2.
Well, mainly in the USA..

But look at this:

https://www.dhm.de/lemo/bestand/objekt/uniform-der-sa-um-1930.html

The Nazi stormtroopers had in 1930 roughly 100,000 members. So they had
100,000 uniforms. But where did they come from?

Somebody had apparently the brilliant idea to use the large stock of
cheap/unused British uniforms from the 2nd Boer war.

They looked like this:

http://www.symbolism-in-art.org/Cartoon-of-British-leaders-in-the-Boer-War,-Field-Marshal-Sir-Frederick-Sleigh-Roberts-(1832-1914)-With-His-Boot-on-a-Portrait-of-Paul-Kruger-(1825-1924)-Cartoon-of-British-leaders-in-the-Boer-War-large.html

A few minor changes were applied, like black boots instead of brown.

But I would say, they look like 'Made in England'.


TH
Thomas Heger
2018-02-18 17:47:17 UTC
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Post by Thomas Heger
Post by KWills Shill #3
Post by Thomas Heger
E.g. the uniforms of Nazi stormtroopers called 'SA' looked like a carbon
copy of the British uniforms in the 2nd Boer war.
The boy scouts had also swastikas as batches and also a 'stiff arm salute'.
A lot of the world had a "stiff arm salute" prior to WW2.
Well, mainly in the USA..
https://www.dhm.de/lemo/bestand/objekt/uniform-der-sa-um-1930.html
The Nazi stormtroopers had in 1930 roughly 100,000 members. So they had
100,000 uniforms. But where did they come from?
Somebody had apparently the brilliant idea to use the large stock of
cheap/unused British uniforms from the 2nd Boer war.
http://www.symbolism-in-art.org/Cartoon-of-British-leaders-in-the-Boer-War,-Field-Marshal-Sir-Frederick-Sleigh-Roberts-(1832-1914)-With-His-Boot-on-a-Portrait-of-Paul-Kruger-(1825-1924)-Cartoon-of-British-leaders-in-the-Boer-War-large.html
OK, even if nobody complained I have to admit, this is only a guess.

I had the idea, the SA-uniforms were in fact pre-owned and stem from the
2nd Boer war.

The reason is this:

the SA was kind of militia and helped to secure the Nazi party and their
events.

They used brown 'breeches' as trousers. These were used in the Boer war
to allow the British soldiers to ride through South Africa without
catching too much attention.

So these trousers were made for riding and for the African bush.

Since they were also made for aristocrats, the used materials and the
quality of the tailors work was way above that of the average uniforms
of that time.

But the SA had no horses and had not connection to the African landscape.

So why should the Nazi-uniform-designer use brown as color and a form,
which require riding boots???

Answer: (my guess actually) they were pre-owned and of no further use,
hence very cheap.

So the large stores of overstock uniforms were used to dress the
Nazi-stormtroopers for cheap.

Actually there are few other possible explanations, since if they were
in fact made in Germany, someone had to make them in Germany (about
100,000) and someone had to pay. But the Nazi party was not particularly
wealthy in 1930.


TH
KWills Shill #3
2018-02-19 09:55:20 UTC
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Post by Thomas Heger
Post by Thomas Heger
Post by KWills Shill #3
Post by Thomas Heger
E.g. the uniforms of Nazi stormtroopers called 'SA' looked like a carbon
copy of the British uniforms in the 2nd Boer war.
The boy scouts had also swastikas as batches and also a 'stiff arm salute'.
A lot of the world had a "stiff arm salute" prior to WW2.
Well, mainly in the USA..
https://www.dhm.de/lemo/bestand/objekt/uniform-der-sa-um-1930.html
The Nazi stormtroopers had in 1930 roughly 100,000 members. So they had
100,000 uniforms. But where did they come from?
Somebody had apparently the brilliant idea to use the large stock of
cheap/unused British uniforms from the 2nd Boer war.
http://www.symbolism-in-art.org/Cartoon-of-British-leaders-in-the-Boer-War,-Field-Marshal-Sir-Frederick-Sleigh-Roberts-(1832-1914)-With-His-Boot-on-a-Portrait-of-Paul-Kruger-(1825-1924)-Cartoon-of-British-leaders-in-the-Boer-War-large.html
OK, even if nobody complained I have to admit, this is only a guess.
Your claim was so comically wrong, no one needed to point it out.
Anyone who has experienced sixth grade, or its equivalent, already
knows the storm troopers wore gray and black, not brown. If they were
"on the lines" they may have worn an olive colored uniform.
Post by Thomas Heger
I had the idea, the SA-uniforms were in fact pre-owned and stem from the
2nd Boer war.
Very few of the Nazi military wore outfits that resembled the
cartoon you linked to above.
Post by Thomas Heger
the SA was kind of militia and helped to secure the Nazi party and their
events.
You have NO idea what you're posting about, do you?
Post by Thomas Heger
They used brown 'breeches' as trousers.
When?
Post by Thomas Heger
These were used in the Boer war
to allow the British soldiers to ride through South Africa without
catching too much attention.
But not by the Nazi Storm troopers.
Post by Thomas Heger
So these trousers were made for riding and for the African bush.
Since they were also made for aristocrats, the used materials and the
quality of the tailors work was way above that of the average uniforms
of that time.
Unlikely. If being made for the military, it's likely the same
materials were used for all. Just different dyed colors were ordered.
I suppose it is possible those with high enough rank could get special
orders with more comfortable material. But certainly not the rank and
file troopers.
Post by Thomas Heger
But the SA had no horses and had not connection to the African landscape.
Actually, they did have operations in Africa, though very few.
Post by Thomas Heger
So why should the Nazi-uniform-designer use brown as color and a form,
which require riding boots???
For all but the upper echelon, they didn't.
Post by Thomas Heger
Answer: (my guess actually) they were pre-owned and of no further use,
hence very cheap.
So the large stores of overstock uniforms were used to dress the
Nazi-stormtroopers for cheap.
Except that a search using one's favorite search engine, since
you seemed to have missed an entire year of school, will show you're
completely wrong.
Post by Thomas Heger
Actually there are few other possible explanations, since if they were
in fact made in Germany, someone had to make them in Germany (about
100,000) and someone had to pay. But the Nazi party was not particularly
wealthy in 1930.
Since the Storm troopers didn't wear the brown outfits you
suggest, it wouldn't matter.
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Thomas Heger
2018-02-20 21:31:08 UTC
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Post by KWills Shill #3
Post by Thomas Heger
Post by Thomas Heger
Post by KWills Shill #3
Post by Thomas Heger
E.g. the uniforms of Nazi stormtroopers called 'SA' looked like a carbon
copy of the British uniforms in the 2nd Boer war.
The boy scouts had also swastikas as batches and also a 'stiff arm salute'.
A lot of the world had a "stiff arm salute" prior to WW2.
Well, mainly in the USA..
https://www.dhm.de/lemo/bestand/objekt/uniform-der-sa-um-1930.html
The Nazi stormtroopers had in 1930 roughly 100,000 members. So they had
100,000 uniforms. But where did they come from?
Somebody had apparently the brilliant idea to use the large stock of
cheap/unused British uniforms from the 2nd Boer war.
http://www.symbolism-in-art.org/Cartoon-of-British-leaders-in-the-Boer-War,-Field-Marshal-Sir-Frederick-Sleigh-Roberts-(1832-1914)-With-His-Boot-on-a-Portrait-of-Paul-Kruger-(1825-1924)-Cartoon-of-British-leaders-in-the-Boer-War-large.html
OK, even if nobody complained I have to admit, this is only a guess.
Your claim was so comically wrong, no one needed to point it out.
Anyone who has experienced sixth grade, or its equivalent, already
knows the storm troopers wore gray and black, not brown. If they were
"on the lines" they may have worn an olive colored uniform.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturmabteilung

'SA' means 'Sturmabteillung' (~~'Storm department').

Quote from the Wikipedia-page above:

"The SA were also called the "Brownshirts" (Braunhemden) from the color
of their uniform shirts..."

(So you haven't finished sixth grade yet ??)
Post by KWills Shill #3
Post by Thomas Heger
I had the idea, the SA-uniforms were in fact pre-owned and stem from the
2nd Boer war.
Very few of the Nazi military wore outfits that resembled the
cartoon you linked to above.
Besides Mr Nazi himself:

https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-b7f4b5d49739a0aa29a6249ac68fd762
Post by KWills Shill #3
Post by Thomas Heger
the SA was kind of militia and helped to secure the Nazi party and their
events.
You have NO idea what you're posting about, do you?
Ok, I had no personal contact to the SA and actually its hear-say. But
here's the link to the Wikipedia-page again:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturmabteilung
Post by KWills Shill #3
Post by Thomas Heger
They used brown 'breeches' as trousers.
When?
The SA wore breeches in the color 'khaki' (brown).

I had the idea, this would be actually pre-used British uniforms, which
were worn by Kitchener's and Baden-Powell's troops in the 2nd Boer war.
Post by KWills Shill #3
Post by Thomas Heger
These were used in the Boer war
to allow the British soldiers to ride through South Africa without
catching too much attention.
But not by the Nazi Storm troopers.
I meant 'Sturm-Abteillung' ('SA') with what I called 'Nazi Storm troopers'.
Post by KWills Shill #3
Post by Thomas Heger
So these trousers were made for riding and for the African bush.
Since they were also made for aristocrats, the used materials and the
quality of the tailors work was way above that of the average uniforms
of that time.
Unlikely. If being made for the military, it's likely the same
materials were used for all. Just different dyed colors were ordered.
Well, possibly.

But I would guess, the upper ranks in the British Army of that time had
also better materials used in their uniforms.

Don't know, but certainly this is possible to check with relatively
simple forensic methods.
Post by KWills Shill #3
I suppose it is possible those with high enough rank could get special
orders with more comfortable material. But certainly not the rank and
file troopers.
Post by Thomas Heger
But the SA had no horses and had not connection to the African landscape.
Actually, they did have operations in Africa, though very few.
???

I meant British troops in South Africa in the Boer war.
Post by KWills Shill #3
Post by Thomas Heger
So why should the Nazi-uniform-designer use brown as color and a form,
which require riding boots???
For all but the upper echelon, they didn't.
Breeches look simply stupid, if worn without boots.

So it would be much cheaper to dress militia-men with less sophisticated
uniforms, that could be worn without riding boots.
Post by KWills Shill #3
Post by Thomas Heger
Answer: (my guess actually) they were pre-owned and of no further use,
hence very cheap.
So the large stores of overstock uniforms were used to dress the
Nazi-stormtroopers for cheap.
Except that a search using one's favorite search engine, since
you seemed to have missed an entire year of school, will show you're
completely wrong.
Well, this is actually the question. I have not such fancy means like
e.g. an electron microscope. But there are people on this planet, who
have the ability to check, whether or not SA uniforms were made in England.
Post by KWills Shill #3
Post by Thomas Heger
Actually there are few other possible explanations, since if they were
in fact made in Germany, someone had to make them in Germany (about
100,000) and someone had to pay. But the Nazi party was not particularly
wealthy in 1930.
Since the Storm troopers didn't wear the brown outfits you
suggest, it wouldn't matter.
Here's the link again:
https://www.dhm.de/lemo/bestand/objekt/uniform-der-sa-um-1930.html

'dhm' means (in English) 'German historic museum', hence the exhibit is
on display in a large museum.


TH
KWills Shill #3
2018-02-21 10:14:07 UTC
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Post by Thomas Heger
Post by KWills Shill #3
Post by Thomas Heger
Post by Thomas Heger
Post by KWills Shill #3
Post by Thomas Heger
E.g. the uniforms of Nazi stormtroopers called 'SA' looked like a carbon
copy of the British uniforms in the 2nd Boer war.
The boy scouts had also swastikas as batches and also a 'stiff arm salute'.
A lot of the world had a "stiff arm salute" prior to WW2.
Well, mainly in the USA..
https://www.dhm.de/lemo/bestand/objekt/uniform-der-sa-um-1930.html
The Nazi stormtroopers had in 1930 roughly 100,000 members. So they had
100,000 uniforms. But where did they come from?
Somebody had apparently the brilliant idea to use the large stock of
cheap/unused British uniforms from the 2nd Boer war.
http://www.symbolism-in-art.org/Cartoon-of-British-leaders-in-the-Boer-War,-Field-Marshal-Sir-Frederick-Sleigh-Roberts-(1832-1914)-With-His-Boot-on-a-Portrait-of-Paul-Kruger-(1825-1924)-Cartoon-of-British-leaders-in-the-Boer-War-large.html
OK, even if nobody complained I have to admit, this is only a guess.
Your claim was so comically wrong, no one needed to point it out.
Anyone who has experienced sixth grade, or its equivalent, already
knows the storm troopers wore gray and black, not brown. If they were
"on the lines" they may have worn an olive colored uniform.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturmabteilung
'SA' means 'Sturmabteillung' (~~'Storm department').
"The SA were also called the "Brownshirts" (Braunhemden) from the color
of their uniform shirts..."
(So you haven't finished sixth grade yet ??)
You wrote, as seen above, "The Nazi stormtroopers had in 1930
roughly 100,000 members."
You are not stupid, so please cease acting like you don't know
the Stormtroopers and SA are different.
Post by Thomas Heger
Post by KWills Shill #3
Post by Thomas Heger
I had the idea, the SA-uniforms were in fact pre-owned and stem from the
2nd Boer war.
Very few of the Nazi military wore outfits that resembled the
cartoon you linked to above.
https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-b7f4b5d49739a0aa29a6249ac68fd762
Thank you for providing the evidence for my claim.
Post by Thomas Heger
Post by KWills Shill #3
Post by Thomas Heger
the SA was kind of militia and helped to secure the Nazi party and their
events.
You have NO idea what you're posting about, do you?
Ok, I had no personal contact to the SA and actually its hear-say. But
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturmabteilung
Which, of course, has NOTHING to do with the Stormtroopers you
initially mentioned.
Post by Thomas Heger
Post by KWills Shill #3
Post by Thomas Heger
They used brown 'breeches' as trousers.
When?
The SA wore breeches in the color 'khaki' (brown).
What does the SA have to do with the Stormtroopers you mentioned?
Post by Thomas Heger
I had the idea, this would be actually pre-used British uniforms, which
were worn by Kitchener's and Baden-Powell's troops in the 2nd Boer war.
But the Stormtroopers didn't wear brown.
I know you are DESPERATE to divert from your initial claim, but
I'm not going to allow it.
Post by Thomas Heger
Post by KWills Shill #3
Post by Thomas Heger
These were used in the Boer war
to allow the British soldiers to ride through South Africa without
catching too much attention.
But not by the Nazi Storm troopers.
I meant 'Sturm-Abteillung' ('SA') with what I called 'Nazi Storm troopers'.
Sure. Given the number of times I've caught you being dishonest,
I question your claim.
Sadly, I know of no way to prove, or disprove, it.
Post by Thomas Heger
Post by KWills Shill #3
Post by Thomas Heger
So these trousers were made for riding and for the African bush.
Since they were also made for aristocrats, the used materials and the
quality of the tailors work was way above that of the average uniforms
of that time.
Unlikely. If being made for the military, it's likely the same
materials were used for all. Just different dyed colors were ordered.
Well, possibly.
Probable.
Post by Thomas Heger
But I would guess, the upper ranks in the British Army of that time had
also better materials used in their uniforms.
Your guesses are, as always, meaningless.
Post by Thomas Heger
Don't know, but certainly this is possible to check with relatively
simple forensic methods.
Feel free.
Post by Thomas Heger
Post by KWills Shill #3
I suppose it is possible those with high enough rank could get special
orders with more comfortable material. But certainly not the rank and
file troopers.
Post by Thomas Heger
But the SA had no horses and had not connection to the African landscape.
Actually, they did have operations in Africa, though very few.
???
I meant British troops in South Africa in the Boer war.
So now the SA are British?
Wow. You really enjoy being deceptive.
Post by Thomas Heger
Post by KWills Shill #3
Post by Thomas Heger
So why should the Nazi-uniform-designer use brown as color and a form,
which require riding boots???
For all but the upper echelon, they didn't.
Breeches look simply stupid, if worn without boots.
So it would be much cheaper to dress militia-men with less sophisticated
uniforms, that could be worn without riding boots.
But you claimed they were old British uniforms. Buying used would
be cheaper.
Post by Thomas Heger
Post by KWills Shill #3
Post by Thomas Heger
Answer: (my guess actually) they were pre-owned and of no further use,
hence very cheap.
So the large stores of overstock uniforms were used to dress the
Nazi-stormtroopers for cheap.
Except that a search using one's favorite search engine, since
you seemed to have missed an entire year of school, will show you're
completely wrong.
Well, this is actually the question. I have not such fancy means like
e.g. an electron microscope. But there are people on this planet, who
have the ability to check, whether or not SA uniforms were made in England.
Cite someone who has and has found your claim to be accurate.
Post by Thomas Heger
Post by KWills Shill #3
Post by Thomas Heger
Actually there are few other possible explanations, since if they were
in fact made in Germany, someone had to make them in Germany (about
100,000) and someone had to pay. But the Nazi party was not particularly
wealthy in 1930.
Since the Storm troopers didn't wear the brown outfits you
suggest, it wouldn't matter.
https://www.dhm.de/lemo/bestand/objekt/uniform-der-sa-um-1930.html
'dhm' means (in English) 'German historic museum', hence the exhibit is
on display in a large museum.
And the display does not show the uniform of a Stormtooper.
--
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Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor.
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marston shores
2018-02-18 13:35:58 UTC
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When?
Are you serious?

http://www.iowacourts.state.ia.us
http://www.iowacourts.state.ia.us/ESAWebApp/DefaultFrame
( Start a case search here. )
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( Wills (Tab key) Kent (Tab key) Bradley (Search) )

http://www.doc.state.ia.us/InmateInfo.asp?OffenderCd=1155768

Name Kent Bradley Wills Offender Number 1155768
Sex M Birth Date 01/08/1969 Age 39 Location Interstate Compact
Offense BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE County Of Commitment Polk
Commitment Date 01/16/2004 Duration TDD/SDD * 01/16/2009
* TDD = Tentative Discharge Date * SDD = Supervision Discharge Date
Supervision Status Offense Class County of Commitment End Date
Probation Aggravated Misdemeanor Polk Probation C Felony
Polk
Supervision Status Offense Class County of Commitment End Date
Probation Aggravated Misdemeanor Polk 11/25/2003

http://www.judicial.state.ia.us/Supreme_Court/Recent_Opinions/20050506/04-0202.asp?search=+Kent+Wills+#_1


IN THE SUPREME COURT OF IOWA
No. 31 / 04-0202
Filed May 6, 2005

STATE OF IOWA,
Appellee,
vs.
KENT BRADLEY WILLS,
Appellant.

Appeal from the Iowa District Court for Polk County, Michael D.
Huppert, Judge.

Defendant appeals claiming ineffective assistance of
counsel. AFFIRMED.

Linda Del Gallo, State Appellate Defender, and Tricia Johnston,
Assistant State Appellate Defender, for appellant.

Thomas J. Miller, Attorney General, Kevin Cmelik, Assistant Attorney
General, John P. Sarcone, County Attorney, and John Judisch, Assistant
County Attorney, for appellee.

WIGGINS, Justice.

Kent Wills appeals his conviction for second-degree burglary
contending that an attached garage is a separate occupied structure
from that of the living quarters of the residence. In this appeal, we
must determine whether trial counsel was ineffective for (1) failing
to move for judgment of acquittal on the basis there was insufficient
evidence to convict Wills of second-degree burglary when he entered an
attached garage of a residence when no persons were present in the
garage, but when persons were present in the living quarters; and (2)
failing to object to a jury instruction based on this same argument.
Because we find there was no legal basis for the motion for judgment
of acquittal or the objection to the jury instruction, Wills' trial
counsel was not ineffective. Accordingly, we affirm the judgment of
the district court.

I. Background Facts and Proceedings.

Around 1 a.m., an Ankeny resident called the local police to report
that a car alarm sounded in the resident's neighborhood. The city
dispatched a police officer to the location. Observing nothing
unusual, the officer left the area, only to be stopped a couple of
blocks later by a person who informed the officer he had witnessed
someone running from the area of the car alarm. As the officer
started driving back to the area of the car alarm, he noticed a person
walking on the sidewalk. The officer asked the person, a minor, if he
had noticed anybody running from the area. The minor answered that he
had not. While the officer and another officer were speaking to the
minor, another resident of the neighborhood arrived in her car and
informed the officers that she had observed two people, one of whom
was heavy set with a blinking light on his back pocket, walking in the
area of her neighbor's residence. She observed the heavier-set
individual, later identified as Wills, enter her neighbor's attached
garage through an unlocked service door. She further observed a
smaller individual standing by a van parked in the neighbor's
driveway.

The officers eventually let the minor leave even though they found a
large amount of coins, a flashlight, and an electronic pocket
organizer in his pockets. After releasing the minor, the police
officers drove to the residence where the neighbor observed the two
suspicious people and woke the owner. The owner, his wife, and two
daughters were in the residence sleeping at the time. After a search
of his vehicles, the owner discovered change and an electronic pocket
organizer were missing from the vehicles. The owner's daughter
reported a diamond ring and some change were missing from her
vehicle. The officers then contacted the minor's parents, who
informed the officers the minor was with Wills. After the officers
questioned the minor again, he admitted his involvement in the theft
and implicated Wills in the burglary. Although Wills denied
involvement in the burglary, the officers arrested him.

The State filed a trial information charging Wills with second-degree
burglary. The State later amended the information to include two
additional charges of burglary in the third degree and using a
juvenile to commit an indictable offense.

The jury returned a verdict finding Wills guilty of the crimes of
burglary in the second degree, burglary in the third degree, and using
a juvenile to commit an indictable offense. Wills appeals his
conviction for second-degree burglary claiming ineffective assistance
of counsel.

II. Scope of Review.

Claims of ineffective assistance of counsel are derived from the Sixth
Amendment of the United States Constitution. Strickland v.
Washington, 466 U.S. 668, 684-86, 104 S. Ct. 2052, 2063-64, 80 L. Ed.
2d 674, 691-93 (1984). Our review for a claim involving violations of
the Constitution is de novo. State v. Fintel, 689 N.W.2d 95, 100
(Iowa 2004). We normally preserve ineffective-assistance-of-counsel
claims for postconviction relief actions. State v. Carter, 602 N.W.2d
818, 820 (Iowa 1999). However, we will address such claims on direct
appeal when the record is sufficient to permit a ruling. State v.
Artzer, 609 N.W.2d 526, 531 (Iowa 2000). The appellate record in the
present case is sufficient to allow us to address Wills' ineffective-
assistance-of-counsel claims on direct appeal.

In order for a defendant to succeed on a claim of ineffective
assistance of counsel, the defendant must prove: (1) counsel failed
to perform an essential duty and (2) prejudice resulted. Id.
Prejudice results when "there is a reasonable probability that, but
for the counsel's unprofessional errors, the result of the proceeding
would have been different." State v. Hopkins, 576 N.W.2d 374, 378
(Iowa 1998) (quoting Strickland, 466 U.S. at 694, 104 S. Ct. at 2068,
80 L. Ed. 2d at 698). Wills' arguments also raise issues of statutory
interpretation, which we review for correction of errors at law.
State v. Wolford Corp., 689 N.W.2d 471, 473 (Iowa 2004).

III. Analysis.

To find Wills guilty of burglary in the second degree, the State had
to prove Wills perpetrated a burglary "in or upon an occupied
structure in which one or more persons are present . . . ." Iowa Code
§ 713.5(2) (2003) (emphasis added).

In this appeal, Wills first contends his trial counsel was ineffective
for failing to move for a judgment of acquittal on the basis there was
insufficient evidence to support a finding that at the time Wills
entered the garage, there were persons present in or upon the occupied
structure. Wills concedes the garage was an occupied structure, but
argues the living quarters and the attached garage are separate and
independent occupied structures; therefore, the jury could not have
found there were people present in the attached garage at the time of
the burglary.

The Code defines an "occupied structure" as:

[A]ny building, structure, appurtenances to buildings and structures,
land, water or air vehicle, or similar place adapted for overnight
accommodation of persons, or occupied by persons for the purpose of
carrying on business or other activity therein, or for the storage or
safekeeping of anything of value. Such a structure is an "occupied
structure" whether or not a person is actually present.

Id. § 702.12.

Wills relies on State v. Smothers, 590 N.W.2d 721 (Iowa 1999), to
argue the garage and the living quarters are separate and independent
occupied structures. In Smothers, two separate and distinct
businesses connected by interior fire doors were operated in the same
structure. 590 N.W.2d at 723. We held the defendant committed two
burglaries by entering each business because "[t]he facility's
construction history and physical make-up demonstrate that the
portions are independent working units which constitute '[a]
combination of materials to form a construction for occupancy [or]
use.'" Id. Smothers is not at odds with the present case because the
living quarters and the garage are not separate or independent units
of the residence.

Our review of the record reveals the garage in question was a three-
car attached garage separated from the living quarters by a door. The
same roof covered the garage as the rest of the residence. The living
quarters surrounded the garage on two sides. It was structurally no
different from any other room in the residence.

The garage was a functional part of the residence. On the night of
the incident, the door was unlocked. The owner of the residence used
two stalls in the garage to park the family vehicles. The owner used
the third stall for his motorcycle. As such, the garage and the
living quarters are a single "structure" or "building" functioning as
an integral part of the family residence. Thus, the residence
including the garage is a single "occupied structure" under section
702.12. See, e.g., People v. Ingram, 48 Cal. Rptr. 2d 256 (Ct. App.
1995) (holding defendant's entry into an attached garage constituted
first-degree burglary because the garage was attached to the house;
therefore, burglary of the garage was burglary of an inhabited
dwelling house); People v. Cunningham, 637 N.E.2d 1247, 1252 (Ill.
App. Ct. 1994) (holding "ordinarily an attached garage is a 'dwelling'
because it is part of the structure in which the owner or occupant
lives"); State v. Lara, 587 P.2d 52, 53 (N.M. Ct. App. 1978) (holding
"burglary of the [attached] garage was burglary of the dwelling house
because the garage was a part of the structure used as living
quarters"); People v. Green, 141 A.D.2d 760, 761 (N.Y. App. Div. 1988)
(holding "[s]ince the garage in the present case was structurally part
of a building which was used for overnight lodging of various persons,
it must be considered as part of a dwelling"); White v. State, 630 S.W.
2d 340, 342 (Tex. Ct. App. 1982) (holding an attached garage under the
same roof as the home would be considered a habitation within the
purview of the penal code because the garage is a structure
appurtenant to and connected to the house); State v. Murbach, 843 P.2d
551, 553 (Wash. Ct. App 1993) (holding the definition of a dwelling
under Washington's burglary statute included an attached garage).

Had Wills' trial counsel moved for a judgment of acquittal on the
basis there was insufficient evidence to support a finding that at the
time Wills entered the garage there were no persons present in or upon
the occupied structure, it would have been overruled by the court
because the owner and his family were present in the residence at the
time of the burglary.

Wills also claims his counsel was ineffective for failing to object to
the jury instruction used by the district court on the same ground;
that the living quarters were a separate and independent occupied
structure from the attached garage. The instruction as given stated:

The State must prove all of the following elements of Burglary in the
Second Degree as to Count I:

1. On or about the 12th day of August, 2003, the defendant or someone
he aided and abetted broke into or entered the residence at . . . .

2. The residence at . . . was an occupied structure as defined in
Instruction No. 29.

3. The defendant or the person he aided and abetted did not have
permission or authority to break into the residence at . . . .

4. The defendant or the person he aided and abetted did so with the
specific intent to commit a theft therein.

5. During the incident persons were present in or upon the occupied
structure.

If the State has proved all of the elements, the defendant is guilty
of Burglary in the Second Degree. If the State has failed to prove
any of the elements, the defendant is not guilty of Burglary in the
Second Degree and you will then consider the charge of Attempted
Burglary in the Second Degree explained in Instruction No. 21.

(Emphasis added.)

Wills' claim is without merit. As we have discussed, the residence is
the one and only "occupied structure" under the facts of this case.
Had Wills' trial counsel made this objection to the instruction, it
would have been overruled.

Therefore, Wills' trial counsel is not ineffective for failing to move
for a judgment of acquittal or objecting to the instruction because
there was no legal basis for the motion or objection. See State v.
Hochmuth, 585 N.W.2d 234, 238 (Iowa 1998) (holding trial counsel was
not ineffective for failing to raise an issue that has no merit).

IV. Disposition.

We affirm the judgment of the district court because Wills' trial
counsel was not ineffective for failing to raise meritless issues.

AFFIRMED.
KWills Shill #3
2018-02-18 17:14:07 UTC
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Post by Thomas Heger
Post by Thomas Heger
Hi NG
among the stranger habits of British 'intelligence' is to allow their
spies to write spy-novells.
http://www.thedump.scoutscan.com/adventures.pdf
This book is worth reading, because it shows a lot about how propaganda
actually works.
another interesting subject is the term 'Scouts'.
Baden-Powel uses this as synonym for 'field spies'.
When?
Are you serious?
Yes. I'd like Thomas to explain when Baden-Powel uses the term
Scouts as a synonym for field spies. I don't expect him to actually
answer, of course.

What do the other members of Lar$on's cult think of your racist
views?
What do the other members of Lar$on's cult think of your claim
that Lar$on is the messiah?


About Bob Larson:
">He works hard at scamming gullible suckers, yes he does.
"Yes he does."
Marston agreeing that Lar$on scams people in Message-ID:
<onlk8g$31i$***@gioia.aioe.org>


"Shut up, gook! You have no right to demand anything."
Marston Shores, racist and Bob Larson supporter,
in Message-ID: <oogthh$1fvn$***@gioia.aioe.org>

"Whites and niggers should never mix! It's against God's will."
Marston Shores, racist and Bob Larson supporter,
in Message-ID: <o7ljuj$1ah7$***@gioia.aioe.org>

"Japan is full of gooks and gook lovers. When Jesus returns, he will
judge them as he will all the inferior races.
Praise God!"
Marston Shores, racist and Bob Larson supporter,
in Message-ID: <oogt9n$1fvn$***@gioia.aioe.org>

"I am proud to be a racist."
Marston Shores, racist and Bob Larson supporter,
Message-ID: <oem0sa$n6v$***@gioia.aioe.org>

"You probably have the mark of Cain (dark skin) on you now."
Marston Shores, racist and Bob Larson supporter,
in Message-ID: <oem0q3$n6v$***@gioia.aioe.org>


"I lied about the pictures."
Marston Shores admitting he lied about the pictures he claimed I
posted in Message-ID: <o2kkih$146k$***@gioia.aioe.org>

Me:Once again you PROVE that, for you, lying is as natural as
breathing. Not that this was ever in question.

Marston Shores: Indeed.

Marston Shores actually admitting lying is very easy for him in
Message-ID:<ol03uq$1mi0$***@gioia.aioe.org>

Moe: I'm glad I decided to be Pagan. The Goddess is way more
compassionate than that sadist.

Marston: There is no "Goddess", that's Satan deceiving you.

Me: And you would know, since you worship Satan.

Marston: That I would, heathen.

Marston Shores openly admitting he worships Satan in
Message-ID: <l62pt1$jvs$***@speranza.aioe.org>

Marston Shores claims Bob Lar$on is christ:
"I will make
sure of that for as long as you deny that Bob Larson can save your
immortal soul."
Message-ID: <o48bu9$tq6$***@gioia.aioe.org>


"You need to go to Bob Larson for salvation, Kentucci"
Marston Shores claiming Bob Larson is the savior in
Message-ID: <o2rktu$amb$***@gioia.aioe.org>


"You need Bob Larson in your life. He can save your soul."
Marston Shores claiming Bob Larson is the savior. Again.
Message-ID: <o2rl1g$amb$***@gioia.aioe.org>
joeturn
2018-02-16 00:06:18 UTC
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Post by Thomas Heger
Hi NG
among the stranger habits of British 'intelligence' is to allow their
spies to write spy-novells.
http://www.thedump.scoutscan.com/adventures.pdf
This book is worth reading, because it shows a lot about how propaganda
actually works.
" With the Straits of Dover so blocked, they could then rush
a fleet of transports across the North Sea from Germany, to
the East Coast of England, either East Anglia or, as in this
plan, to Yorkshire. They had in Germany nine embarking stations,
with piers and platforms, all ready made, and steel lighters for
disembarkation purposes or for actual voyage across the ocean in case of
fine weather.
They had taken the average of the weather for years past, and
had come to the conclusion that July 13th is, on an average, the
finest day in the year; but their attempt would be timed, if possible,
to fall on a Bank Holiday when communications were temporarily
disorganised. Therefore the nearest Bank Holiday
to July 13th would probably be that at the beginning of August..
The spies stationed in England were to cut all telephone and telegraph
wires, and, where possible, to blow down important bridges and tunnels,
and thus to interrupt communications and create confusion.
Their idea of landing on the coast of Yorkshire was based on the
following reasons: —
They did not look upon London as strategically the capital of
England, but rather upon the great industrial centres of the
north Midlands, where, instead of six millions, there are more
like fourteen millions of people assembled in the numerous cities
and towns, which now almost adjoin each other across that part of
the country.
Their theory was that if they could rush as army of even
90,000 men into Leeds, Sheffield, Halifax, Manchester, and Liverpool
without encountering great opposition in the first few hours, they could
there establish themselves in such strength that it would require a
powerful army to drive them out again. "
This is - of course - true nonsense, since there are no piers on the
north western coast of Germany.
There were also no plans or other attempts to invade England.
(In contrast e.g. Hitler let the 300.000 captured English soldiers
return home)
It is also highly unlikely, that Germans had a particular interest in
the midlands.
(I would guess, if the British would auction this area on e-bay today,
they would not get a very high offer.)
So WHY should Germany try to get there? (Liverpool, Manchester ...)
But what is REALLY stunning, that Baden-Powell obviously describes 'd-day'.
Now this would suggest, that English spies had planned d-day way in
advance (30 years actually).
TH
After the white shirts Baldwin entered the USA as Will Rogers and carried on his pedoplia with BSA
joeturn
2018-02-19 00:35:31 UTC
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Post by Thomas Heger
Hi NG
among the stranger habits of British 'intelligence' is to allow their
spies to write spy-novells.
http://www.thedump.scoutscan.com/adventures.pdf
This book is worth reading, because it shows a lot about how propaganda
actually works.
" With the Straits of Dover so blocked, they could then rush
a fleet of transports across the North Sea from Germany, to
the East Coast of England, either East Anglia or, as in this
plan, to Yorkshire. They had in Germany nine embarking stations,
with piers and platforms, all ready made, and steel lighters for
disembarkation purposes or for actual voyage across the ocean in case of
fine weather.
They had taken the average of the weather for years past, and
had come to the conclusion that July 13th is, on an average, the
finest day in the year; but their attempt would be timed, if possible,
to fall on a Bank Holiday when communications were temporarily
disorganised. Therefore the nearest Bank Holiday
to July 13th would probably be that at the beginning of August..
The spies stationed in England were to cut all telephone and telegraph
wires, and, where possible, to blow down important bridges and tunnels,
and thus to interrupt communications and create confusion.
Their idea of landing on the coast of Yorkshire was based on the
following reasons: —
They did not look upon London as strategically the capital of
England, but rather upon the great industrial centres of the
north Midlands, where, instead of six millions, there are more
like fourteen millions of people assembled in the numerous cities
and towns, which now almost adjoin each other across that part of
the country.
Their theory was that if they could rush as army of even
90,000 men into Leeds, Sheffield, Halifax, Manchester, and Liverpool
without encountering great opposition in the first few hours, they could
there establish themselves in such strength that it would require a
powerful army to drive them out again. "
This is - of course - true nonsense, since there are no piers on the
north western coast of Germany.
There were also no plans or other attempts to invade England.
(In contrast e.g. Hitler let the 300.000 captured English soldiers
return home)
It is also highly unlikely, that Germans had a particular interest in
the midlands.
(I would guess, if the British would auction this area on e-bay today,
they would not get a very high offer.)
So WHY should Germany try to get there? (Liverpool, Manchester ...)
But what is REALLY stunning, that Baden-Powell obviously describes 'd-day'.
Now this would suggest, that English spies had planned d-day way in
advance (30 years actually).
TH
https://www.scouts.org.za/about-us/our-history/
e***@hotmail.com
2018-02-19 01:29:15 UTC
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Yeah? I wouldn’t expect the actual organization to give anything but the white-washed version.
KWills Shill #3
2018-02-19 09:55:32 UTC
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Post by joeturn
https://www.scouts.org.za/about-us/our-history/
I'll bite. How does the scouts in South Africa apply to the
discussion?
--
Shill #3.
Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor.
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joeturn
2018-02-19 18:24:22 UTC
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Post by KWills Shill #3
Post by joeturn
https://www.scouts.org.za/about-us/our-history/
I'll bite. How does the scouts in South Africa apply to the
discussion?
--
Shill #3.
Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor.
https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/
BP was always Scouting for Boys
KWills Shill #3
2018-02-20 10:21:57 UTC
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Post by joeturn
Post by KWills Shill #3
Post by joeturn
https://www.scouts.org.za/about-us/our-history/
I'll bite. How does the scouts in South Africa apply to the
discussion?
BP was always Scouting for Boys
I eagerly await the VALID, VERIFIABLE evidence you will provide.
And you will provide it unless, of course, you're lying.
--
Shill #3.
Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor.
https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/
joeturn
2018-02-20 16:46:33 UTC
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Post by KWills Shill #3
Post by joeturn
Post by KWills Shill #3
Post by joeturn
https://www.scouts.org.za/about-us/our-history/
I'll bite. How does the scouts in South Africa apply to the
discussion?
BP was always Scouting for Boys
I eagerly await the VALID, VERIFIABLE evidence you will provide.
And you will provide it unless, of course, you're lying.
--
Shill #3.
Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor.
https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/
I get tied of spoon feeding you child abuser.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/20/opinion/scoutings-gay-founder.html
e***@hotmail.com
2018-02-20 17:07:57 UTC
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I get tied of spoon feeding you child abuser.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/20/opinion/scoutings-gay-founder.html
******
And we are tired of constantly having to remind you that gays are not searching for little boys any more than straights are searching for little girls.

You’re not searching for little girls, are you? Because that would be both creepy and unlawful!
KWills Shill #3
2018-02-21 10:12:34 UTC
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Post by joeturn
Post by KWills Shill #3
Post by joeturn
Post by KWills Shill #3
Post by joeturn
https://www.scouts.org.za/about-us/our-history/
I'll bite. How does the scouts in South Africa apply to the
discussion?
BP was always Scouting for Boys
I eagerly await the VALID, VERIFIABLE evidence you will provide.
And you will provide it unless, of course, you're lying.
I get tied of spoon feeding you child abuser.
To the best of my knowledge, no one here is a child abuser. But
you will provide the VALID, VERIFIABLE evidence that someone in this
group is. Specifically me.
Or you'll admit your claim is another of your MANY well
documented lies.
Post by joeturn
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/20/opinion/scoutings-gay-founder.html
The article suggests he was probably gay. It doesn't state he
actually was gay. I can see where one would have cause to wonder.
However, there is nothing in the article that suggests, let alone
serves as evidence, that he formed the Scouts so that he would have
access to boys.
Way to PROVE yourself the liar you are, stupid.
--
Shill #3.
Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor.
https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/
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