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Attacking Ourselves: Top Doctors Reveal Vaccines Turn Our Immune System Against Us
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Steve Austin
2020-12-31 12:55:20 UTC
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The research is hard to ignore, vaccines can trigger autoimmunity with a
laundry list of diseases to follow. With harmful and toxic metals as some
vaccine ingredients, who is susceptible and which individuals are more at
risk?

No one would accuse Yehuda Shoenfeld of being a quack. The Israeli clinician
has spent more than three decades studying the human immune system and is at
the pinnacle of his profession. You might say he is more foundation than
fringe in his specialty; he wrote the textbooks. The Mosaic of Autoimmunity,
Autoantibodies, Diagnostic Criteria in Autoimmune Diseases, Infection and
Autoimmunity, Cancer and Autoimmunity – the list is 25 titles long and some
of them are cornerstones of clinical practice. Hardly surprising that
Shoenfeld has been called the "Godfather of Autoimmunology" – the study of
the immune system turned on itself in a wide array of diseases from type 1
diabetes to ulcerative colitis and multiple sclerosis.

But something strange is happening in the world of immunology lately and a
small evidence of it is that the Godfather of Autoimmunology is pointing to
vaccines – specifically, some of their ingredients including the toxic metal
aluminum – as a significant contributor to the growing global epidemic of
autoimmune diseases. The bigger evidence is a huge body of research that's
poured in in the past 15 years, and particularly in the past five years.
Take for example, a recent article published in the journal Pharmacological
Research in which Shoenfeld and colleagues issue unprecedented guidelines
naming four categories of people who are most at risk for vaccine-induced
autoimmunity.

"On one hand," vaccines prevent infections which can trigger autoimmunity,
say the paper's authors, Alessandra Soriano, of the Department of Clinical
Medicine and Rheumatology at the Campus Bio-Medico University in Rome,
Gideon Nesher, of the Hebrew University Medical School in Jerusalem and
Shoenfeld, founder and head of the Zabludowicz Center of Autoimmune Diseases
in the Sheba Medical Center at Tel Hashomer. He is also editor of three
medical journals and author of more than 1,500 research papers across the
spectrum of medical journalism and founder of the International Congress on
Autoimmunology. "On the other hand, many reports that describe
post-vaccination autoimmunity strongly suggest that vaccines can indeed
trigger autoimmunity. Defined autoimmune diseases that may occur following
vaccinations include arthritis, lupus (systemic lupus erythematosus, SLE)
diabetes mellitus, thrombocytopenia, vasculitis, dermatomyosiositis,
Guillain-Barre syndrome and demyelinating disorders. Almost all types of
vaccines have been reported to be associated with the onset of ASIA."

ASIA – or Autoimmune/inflammatory Syndrome Induced by Adjuvants (also known
as Shoenfeld's syndrome) -- first appeared in the Journal of Autoimmunology
four years ago. It is an umbrella term for a collection of similar symptoms,
including Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, that result after exposure to an
adjuvant – an environmental agent including common vaccine ingredients that
stimulate the immune system. Since then an enormous body of research, using
ASIA as a paradigm, has begun to unravel the mystery of how environmental
toxins, particularly the metal aluminum used in vaccines, can trigger an
immune system chain reaction in susceptible individuals and may lead to
overt autoimmune disease.

Autoimmune disease results when the body's system meant to attack foreign
invaders turns instead to attack part of the body it belongs to (auto is
Greek for self). If the immune system is like a national defence system,
antibodies are like drones programmed to recognize a certain type of invader
(a bacteria say) and to destroy them or mark them for destruction by other
special forces. Autoantibodies are like drones that are misidentifying a
component of the human body and have launched a sustained attack on it. If
they mistakenly target a component of the conductive sheath around neurons,
for example, nerve impulses stop conducting properly, muscles go into spasm
and coordination fails; multiple sclerosis results. If autoantibodies
erroneously focus on joint tissue; rheumatoid arthritis results. If they
target the islets of Langerhans in the pancreas, Type 1 diabetes, and so on

"Throughout our lifetime the normal immune system walks a fine line between
preserving normal immune reactions and developing autoimmune diseases," says
the paper. "The healthy immune system is tolerant to self-antigens. When
self-tolerance is disturbed, dysregulation of the immune system follows,
resulting in emergence of an autoimmune disease. Vaccination is one of the
conditions that may disturb this homeostasis in susceptible individuals,
resulting in autoimmune phenomena and ASIA."

Who is "susceptible" is the subject of the paper entitled, "Predicting
post-vaccination autoimmunity: Who might be at risk?" It lists four
categories of people: 1) those who have had a previous autoimmune reaction
to a vaccine, 2) anyone with a medical history of autoimmunity, 3) patients
with a history of allergic reactions, 4) anyone at high risk of developing
autoimmune disease including anyone with a family history of autoimmunity,
presence of autoantibodies which are detectable by blood tests and other
factors including low vitamin D and smoking.

PREVIOUS REACTION
Regarding those who have had a previous adverse reaction to vaccines, the
paper cites five relevant studies including the case of a death of a teenage
girl six months following her third Gardasil injection against HPV virus.
She had experienced a range of symptoms shortly after her first dose,
including dizziness, numbness and tingling in her hands, and memory lapses.
After her second injection, she developed "intermittent arm weakness,
frequent tiredness requiring daytime naps," worse tingling, night sweats,
chest pain and palpitations. A full autopsy was unrevealing but blood and
spleen tissue analysis revealed HPV-16 L1 gene DNA fragments – matching the
DNA found in vials of the Gardasil vaccine against cervical cancer – "thus
implicating the vaccine as a causal factor." The DNA fragments had also been
found to be "complexed with the aluminum adjuvant" which, according to the
report, have been shown to persist for up to 8 to 10 years causing chronic
immune system stimulation.

"Although data is limited," Shoenfeld and his colleagues concluded, "it
seems preferable that individuals with prior autoimmune or autoimmune-like
reactions to vaccinations, should not be immunized, at least not with the
same type of vaccine."

ESTABLISHED AUTOIMMUNE CONDITION
The second group which the paper cites for vaccine exemption is patients
with "established autoimmune conditions." Vaccines don't work so well in
them, say Shoenfeld and his colleagues, and they are at "risk for flares
following vaccination." Inoculations that contain live viruses including
chickenpox, yellow fever and the measles, mumps and rubella triple vaccine
(MMR) are "generally contraindicated" for people with autoimmune conditions
because of the risk of "uncontrolled viral replication." But inactivated
vaccines are not such a good idea either because they usually contain the
added ingredient aluminum, linked to autoimmunity.

The immunologists describe recent studies in which patients with autoimmune
rheumatic disease given the influenza vaccine (without aluminum) suffered
more joint pain and fever than controls and whose levels of autoantibodies
(the drones that attack self) increased after receiving the flu vaccine.
What's more, they developed new types of autoantibodies that weren't present
before the vaccines, and those persisted. As the presence of autoantibodies
can be predictive of developing autoimmune disease in patients without
symptoms, even years ahead of disease onset, this is troubling to those who
understand immunology.

A number of studies claim vaccines are safe for the "overwhelming majority
of patients with established autoimmune diseases," the study allows, but
they only looked at rheumatoid arthritis and lupus and not at severe and
active cases so "the potential benefit of vaccination should be weighed
against its potential risk," they cautioned.

PATIENTS WITH A HISTORY OF ALLERGY
Vaccine trials have usually excluded "vulnerable" individuals -- only
extremely healthy individuals with no allergies are recruited. It's a
"selection bias," say Soriano and Shoenfeld, and has likely resulted in
serious adverse events being "considerably underestimated" in "real life
where vaccines are mandated to all individuals regardless of their
susceptibility." The true incidence of allergic reactions to vaccines,
normally estimated at between one in 50,000 to one in a million doses, is
probably much higher and particularly where gelatin or egg proteins are on
the ingredients list, they say.

There's a long list of vaccine ingredients that are potential allergens:
besides the infectious agents themselves, there are those from hen's egg,
horse serum, baker's yeast, numerous antibiotics, formaldehyde and lactose,
as well "inadvertent" ingredients such as latex. People's allergic histories
have to be taken before vaccination say the researchers. But some signs of
reaction don't show up until after the shot.

The public health nurse or GP might tell patients that a long-lasting
swelling around the injection site after a vaccine is a normal reaction, for
example. But that is not what the immunologists say. "[A]luminum
sensitization manifests as nodules [hard lumps] at the injection site that
often regress after weeks or months, but may persist for years." In such
cases, they say, a patch test can be done to confirm sensitivity and to
avoid vaccination.

According to a growing body of research, though, allergy may be only the
beginning of many dangerous aluminum-induced phenomena.

THE TROUBLE WITH ALUMINUM
Aluminum has been added to vaccines since about 1926 when Alexander Glenny
and colleagues noticed it would produce better antibody responses in
vaccines than the antigen alone. Glenny figured the alum was inducing what
he called a "depot effect" – slowing the release of the antigen and
heightening the immune response. For 60 years his theory was accepted dogma.
And over the same time, the vaccine schedule grew decade on decade, but few
ever questioned the effects of injecting aluminum into the body, which is
strange considering its known toxicity.

A PubMed search on aluminum and "toxicity" turns up 4,258 entries. Its
neurotoxicity is well documented. It affects memory, cognition, psychomotor
control; it damages the blood brain barrier, activates brain inflammation,
depresses mitochondrial function and plenty of research suggests it is a key
player in the formation of the amyloid "plaques" and tangles in the brains
of Alzheimer's patients. It's been implicated in Amyotrophic Lateral
Sclerosis and autism and demonstrated to induce allergy.

When kidney dialysis patients were accidentally infused with aluminum, the
"dialysis-induced encephalopathy" (DAE) they developed neurological
symptoms: speech abnormalities, tremors, memory loss, impaired concentration
and behavioural changes. Many of the patients eventually went into comas and
died. The lucky ones survived: when the source of toxicity, aluminum, was
removed from their dialysis they recovered rapidly.

With these new observations, researchers began investigating the adjuvant
effects of aluminum and in the past decade there has been a flurry of
research. Far from being a sandbag that holds the antigen for a while and
then gets excreted, it turns out that aluminum salts trigger a storm of
defence action. Within hours of injection of the same aluminum oxyhydroxide
in vaccines into mice, for example, armies of specialized immune cells are
on the move, calling in grid coordinates for more specialist assault forces.
Within a day, a whole host of immune system commandos are in play --
neutrophils, eosinophils, inflammatory monocytes, myeloid and dendritic
cells, activating lymphocytes and secreting proteins called cytokines. The
cytokines themselves cause collateral damage but they send out signals,
directing cell-to-cell communication and recruiting other cells into action.
If the next phase of the attack is launched: fibroblast growth factor,
interferons, interleukins, platelet derived growth factor, transforming
growth factor and tumour necrosis factor might all be engaged. There's
evidence that poorly understood and pesky inflammasomes, (currently a topic
of cutting- edge cancer causation research) such as the Nod-like receptor
3( NLRP) are activated too, but it's all still too early to say exactly what
they're doing.

New research emerging from University of British Columbia has found that
aluminum adjuvant injected into mice can alter the expression of genes
associated with autoimmunity. And in their recent study published in the
Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, immunologists at the
University of Colorado found that even host DNA is recruited into the
aluminum assault, that it rapidly coats injected alum, triggering effects
that scientists have barely scratched the surface of understanding.

THE SIGNIFICANCE OF MACROPHAGIC MYOFASCIITIS
This mobility or "translocation" of aluminum in the body is perhaps the most
disturbing of the mounting evidence in current aluminum research. In 1998,
French researcher Romain Gherardi and his colleagues observed an emerging
condition of unknown origin which presented in patients post-vaccination
with Chronic Fatigue like symptoms including swollen lymph nodes, joint and
muscle pain and exhaustion. Tissue biopsies of the patients' deltoid
revealed lesions up to 1 cm in diameter and unique from similar lesions of
other diseases. They went to the lab for analysis and to Gherardi's
astonishment, they mainly consisted of macrophages – large white blood cells
in the immune system whose job is to swallow up foreign invaders in the
body. Enclosed in the cellular fluid of these phagocytes were agglomerates
of nanocrystals of aluminum.

Gherardi and his colleagues began injecting mice with aluminum to see what
happened. Their research published in 2013 revealed that the metal particles
were engulfed by macrophages and formed MMF-like granulomas that
dispersed -- to distant lymph nodes, spleen, liver and eventually brain.

"This strongly suggests that long-term adjuvant biopersistence within
phagocytic cells is a prerequisite of slow brain translocation and delayed
neurotoxicity," writes Gherardi in his February 2015 review of the relevant
research in Frontiers in Neurology.

A more frightening animal study of aluminum is that of Spanish veterinary
researcher Lluis Lujan's study of ovine ASIA. After huge numbers of sheep in
Spain died in 2008 in the wake of a compulsory multiple vaccine campaign
against bluetongue in Spain in 2008, Lujan set out to find out what killed
them – and he began by inoculating them with aluminum.

His 2013 study found that only 0.5% of sheep inoculated with aluminum
vaccines showed immediate reactions of lethargy, transient blindness,
stupor, prostration and seizures – "characterized by a severe
meningoencephalitis, similar to postvaccine reactions seen in humans." Most
of them recovered, temporarily, but postmortem exams of the ones who didn't
revealed acute brain inflammation.

The delayed onset "chronic" phase of the disease affected far more of the
sheep -- 50-70% of flocks and sometimes virtually 100% of animals within a
given flock, usually including all of those who had previously recovered.
The reaction was frequently triggered by exposure to cold and began with
restlessness and compulsive wool-biting, then progressed to acute redness of
the skin, generalized weakness, extreme weight loss and muscle tremors, and
finally, entered the terminal phase where the animals went down on their
front quarters, became comatose and died. Post-mortem examinations revealed
"severe neuron necrosis" and aluminum in the nerve tissue.

The immune system's reaction to aluminum "represents a major health
challenge," Gerhardi declares in his recent review, and he adds that
"attempts to seriously examine safety concerns raised by the bio-persistent
character and brain accumulation of alum particles have not been made... A
lot must be done to understand how, in certain individuals, alum-containing
vaccines may become insidiously unsafe."

Back to the problem of which "certain individuals" should avoid vaccination
to avoid autoimmune disease.
M I Wakefield
2020-12-31 14:12:11 UTC
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On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 23:55:20 +1100, "Steve Austin"
<***@bigpond.net.au> wrote:

So, is "Steve Austin" really "Andrew W", aka Fuckwit, or did we just
get really lucky, and have two certifiable Australian anti-vaxxers
turn up?
Andrew
2020-12-31 14:48:27 UTC
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So, is "Steve Austin" really "Andrew W", aka Fuckwit, or did we just
get really lucky, and have two certifiable Australian anti-vaxxers
turn up?
He has solid science to back up his claims.

Whereas you have only philosophical bias.

But go ahead and get your mRNA vax.

What they don't tell you on the news is
that a few years ago the mRNA vaccine
was having clinical trials on animals.

Later when these animals were challenged
with the~real~virus -- they all died.

The vaccine caused their bodies to have a
hyper-immune reaction called a cytokine
storm, which killed every animal in the test.
Bobbie Sellers
2020-12-31 15:54:52 UTC
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Post by M I Wakefield
So, is "Steve Austin" really "Andrew W", aka Fuckwit, or did we just
get really lucky, and have two certifiable Australian anti-vaxxers
turn up?
He has solid science to back up his claims.
None at all...
Post by Andrew
Whereas you have only philosophical bias.
My bias is toward the truth of matters if
such truth can be found.
Post by Andrew
But go ahead and get your mRNA vax.
What they don't tell you on the news is that a few years ago the mRNA
vaccine was having clinical trials on animals.
Certainly not the Corona-19 vaccination which has been tested on
tens of thousands of individuals. Or maybe in Australia they don't do
that before using vaccines on the General Public, eh Bruce.
Post by Andrew
Later when these animals were challenged
with the~real~virus -- they all died.
The vaccine caused their bodies to have a hyper-immune reaction called a
cytokine storm, which killed every animal in the test.
We already know that a single dose of the virus reduces the worst
symptoms of a Covid-19 infection.
Do you and Austin suffer from a Mask fetish? I keep forgetting
mine so have finally given up hope of debuting as a costumed vigilante

We can be pretty sure after the tests done this fall that the
vaccine is effective.

You are just another dim anti-vaccination person who is willing
for others to die so that you and yours may be spared the illusory
side-effects of any vaccination.

bliss - former nurse, vaccinated in the 1940s when it was a solid
school requirement, lived thru Polio restrictions every summer.
Had the full military course of vaccines in the 1950s, including two
forms of polio vaccine. Survived the 1st Asian influenza attack,
got no swine flue, survived HIV-AIDS epidemic by not getting infected.
Vaccinated against the influenza every year from 40 -83 yoa. Lots of
other vaccines as recommended by physicians.
Andrew
2020-12-31 22:14:56 UTC
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Post by Andrew
Post by M I Wakefield
So, is "Steve Austin" really "Andrew W", aka Fuckwit, or did we just
get really lucky, and have two certifiable Australian anti-vaxxers
turn up?
He has solid science to back up his claims.
None at all...
Post by Andrew
Whereas you have only philosophical bias.
My bias is toward the truth of matters
That's exactly what I advocate for.
Post by Bobbie Sellers
if such truth can be found.
Not by those who listen constantly to the
propaganda machine.
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Post by Andrew
But go ahead and get your mRNA vax.
What they don't tell you on the news is that a few years ago the mRNA
vaccine was having clinical trials on animals.
Certainly not the Corona-19 vaccination which has been tested on
tens of thousands of individuals.
No, they rushed it out using an EUA forgoing the normal trials.
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Or maybe in Australia they don't do
that before using vaccines on the General Public, eh Bruce.
I'm not an aussie, nor am I Bruce.
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Post by Andrew
Later when these animals were challenged
with the~real~virus -- they all died.
The vaccine caused their bodies to have a hyper-immune reaction called a
cytokine storm, which killed every animal in the test.
We already know that a single dose of the virus reduces the worst
symptoms of a Covid-19 infection.
According to the propuaganda you heard, not according to science.
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Do you and Austin suffer from a Mask fetish?
I use a face shield when required.
Post by Bobbie Sellers
I keep forgetting
mine so have finally given up hope of debuting as a costumed vigilante
It's in style now
Post by Bobbie Sellers
We can be pretty sure after the tests done this fall that the
vaccine is effective.
Many will die from the cytokine storm that will occur when
exposed to any corona virus in the future, as happened to the
animals in the trials.
Post by Bobbie Sellers
You are just another dim anti-vaccination person
No, but I do not subscribe to any de-population agenda.
Post by Bobbie Sellers
who is willing for others to die so that you and yours may be
spared the illusory side-effects of any vaccination.
There have been serious neurological adverse reactions to this new
vax, but I suspect many will die in the future when they are exposed
to the real virus (any virus from the corona family of viruses) just
as happened to the animals.
Post by Bobbie Sellers
bliss - former nurse, vaccinated in the 1940s when it was a solid
school requirement, lived thru Polio restrictions every summer.
Had the full military course of vaccines in the 1950s, including two
forms of polio vaccine. Survived the 1st Asian influenza attack,
got no swine flue, survived HIV-AIDS epidemic by not getting infected.
Vaccinated against the influenza every year from 40 -83 yoa. Lots of
other vaccines as recommended by physicians.
The mRNA vax is an experimental therapeutic.

Perhaps the one that will do you in.

But don't let me stop you.

Do some research before
you get in line.
a322x1n
2021-01-01 03:04:35 UTC
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Post by Bobbie Sellers
Post by Andrew
Post by M I Wakefield
So, is "Steve Austin" really "Andrew W", aka Fuckwit, or did we
just get really lucky, and have two certifiable Australian
anti-vaxxers turn up?
He has solid science to back up his claims.
None at all...
Post by Andrew
Whereas you have only philosophical bias.
My bias is toward the truth of matters
That's exactly what I advocate for.
No, you most certainly did not, you stupid, ignorant
lying sack of shit filth! You advocate for disinformation
and propaganda sites and sources set up by people who
laugh at you and anyone they can fool into listening.
Post by Andrew
Post by Bobbie Sellers
if such truth can be found.
Not by those who listen constantly to the
propaganda machine.
And what propaganda machine would that be, butt hole???
Fox New, Fancy Bear, Cozy Bear, QAnon, or some new site
dreamed up by someone who gets his jollies moving stop
signs at night and watching the accidents happen? Damn,
your stupid!!! I should set up a nice little web site
and claim it's written by people with many degrees, and
is endorsed by God Himself. It's real easy to do. Tell
me, how does it feel to be made a total fool of? Do they
give awards for it. Have you shot up a pizza place yet?
Post by Andrew
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Post by Andrew
But go ahead and get your mRNA vax.
You bet I will!!! I hope and pray you don't. The death
rate is about 3,100 a day now, I'd really like for you to
be one of them. "Evolution at work!" We don't need your
kind running loose.
Post by Andrew
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Post by Andrew
What they don't tell you on the news is that a few years ago the
mRNA vaccine was having clinical trials on animals.
And it's been run through each and every stage of testing, including
the "gold standard", double blind testing on _thousands_ of volunteers,
and it's been found to be both safe and effective. But, I plead with
you personally, please don't take the vaccine, Mother Nature has a treat
in store just for you, it's called a "vent".
Post by Andrew
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Certainly not the Corona-19 vaccination which has been tested on
tens of thousands of individuals.
No, they rushed it out using an EUA forgoing the normal trials.
Bull shit, you lying little turd out of a dog's ass end! It had
each and every trial, and you know it. EUA simply means they didn't
let it lay on the desk while thousands died, but reviewed the data
and then released it. But, hey, _you_ don't have to take it, and I
hope and pray you don't take the vaccine. _Evolution_at_work_!
Post by Andrew
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Or maybe in Australia they don't do
that before using vaccines on the General Public, eh Bruce.
I'm not an aussie, nor am I Bruce.
I don't care where you're from, you need to catch COVID-19 and be
put on a vent until you have vent brain!!!
Post by Andrew
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Post by Andrew
Later when these animals were challenged
with the~real~virus -- they all died.
Bull shit! Says who??? The shit bum down on the corner? Or did
Fancy Bear and Cozy Bear tell you personally??? Damn, you're such
a total and complete fool. I've got this web site that says if you
eat lettace your balls will fall off. A Nobel Prize winner did the
"study" himself, and it's backed up by Fleaberhause, the most
well known bio reasearch institute on Earth!!! Beat that!!!
Post by Andrew
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Post by Andrew
The vaccine caused their bodies to have a hyper-immune reaction
called a cytokine storm, which killed every animal in the test.
Says who, dog fucker??? Your bartender, or the mouse that comes out
of the hole in your wall when you're off your medications? Fact is,
no such of a damned thing happened.
Post by Andrew
Post by Bobbie Sellers
We already know that a single dose of the vaccine reduces the worst
symptoms of a Covid-19 infection.
According to the propuaganda you heard, not according to science.
Actually, cock sucker, it's according to science. You couldn't tell
propaganda from science if the world was coming to an end. And that's
what Fancy Bear and Cozy Bear depend on. You don't know how to "Google
It", how to "Fact Check", how to trace back a disinformation site, you
just don't know anything, you ignorant fool. (I shouldn't insult
ignorant fools, at least they are capable of learning, you aren't.)
Post by Andrew
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Do you and Austin suffer from a Mask fetish?
I use a face shield when required.
Post by Bobbie Sellers
I keep forgetting
mine so have finally given up hope of debuting as a costumed
vigilante
It's in style now
Post by Bobbie Sellers
We can be pretty sure after the tests done this fall that the
vaccine is effective.
Many will die from the cytokine storm that will occur when
exposed to any corona virus in the future, as happened to the
animals in the trials.
Bull shit. No such thing happened or has happened. On the other
hand, fail to take the vaccine, and you're setting yourself up for
a cytokine storm caused by the Coronavirus. Somehow, the thought
of you not getting your vaccine and then having a Coronavirus caused
cytokine storm tickles me pink!

Do me a favor. While they're putting you on the vent, tell the Doctors
and nurses, "This isn't happening, it can't be happening, I didn't take
the Vaccine because some joe blow said I'd be Ok, it's all just a dream,
I read these web sites, see, and they gave me the real facts, not some
government propaganda, please, get that thing away from me, please, it's
just not real!" The Doctors and nurses actually do get a real kick out
of those kind of patients, it makes their day!
Post by Andrew
Post by Bobbie Sellers
You are just another dim anti-vaccination person
No, but I do not subscribe to any de-population agenda.
Who does? And yet, people fool with traffic signs to watch the
accients. Fancy Bear and Cozy Bear don't have a problem with
you and others getting sick. But, you're free to listen to
whatever you want to hear, and to ignore what you don't want to
hear. Enjoy yourself!!!
Post by Andrew
Post by Bobbie Sellers
who is willing for others to die so that you and yours may be
spared the illusory side-effects of any vaccination.
There have been serious neurological adverse reactions to this new
vax, but I suspect many will die in the future when they are exposed
to the real virus (any virus from the corona family of viruses) just
as happened to the animals.
No, there haven't been. You're simply a lying sack of shit. The people
who take the vaccine will live, the deniers will die. I hope you're the
first in line for the next vent. By the way, _what_ animals? There
were no animals. It's a disinformation site set up either by kooks or
by Fancy Bear and Cozy Bear.
Post by Andrew
Post by Bobbie Sellers
bliss - former nurse, vaccinated in the 1940s when it was a solid
school requirement, lived thru Polio restrictions every summer.
Had the full military course of vaccines in the 1950s, including two
forms of polio vaccine. Survived the 1st Asian influenza attack,
got no swine flue, survived HIV-AIDS epidemic by not getting
infected. Vaccinated against the influenza every year from 40 -83
yoa. Lots of other vaccines as recommended by physicians.
I've taken every vaccine I can find my entire life. They saved my
bacon many, many times. I pray to High Heaven you never take any
vaccine. You deserve the vent!!! I hope they give you just enough
meds to keep you quiet, but not enough to put you under so you can
lay there and know what's happening to your body and mind.
Post by Andrew
The mRNA vax is an experimental therapeutic.
Bull shit. It's double blind tested over and over again.
Post by Andrew
Perhaps the one that will do you in.
No, it'll save bacon, but I pray you never take a single dose.
Post by Andrew
But don't let me stop you.
You won't.
Post by Andrew
Do some research before you get in line.
Where, from a kook web site? Or from the FDA and CDC, or perhaps
my Doctors, or nurses who're fighting over getting a shot for
themselves???

You have gone into the mouth of Fancy Bear and Cozy Bear, and will
soon reapper out of their ass holes. Enjoy the trip.

P.S. Don't drink milk, your nuts will fall off. I know so, I read
it on the internet.
Andrew W
2020-12-31 23:30:53 UTC
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So, is "Steve Austin" really "Andrew W", aka Fuckwit, or did we just
get really lucky, and have two certifiable Australian anti-vaxxers
turn up?
He has solid science to back up his claims.
None at all...
Your un-researched opinion.
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Post by Andrew
Whereas you have only philosophical bias.
My bias is toward the truth of matters if
such truth can be found.
If you follow the mockingbird media then you are getting the opposite of the
truth.
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Post by Andrew
But go ahead and get your mRNA vax.
What they don't tell you on the news is that a few years ago the mRNA
vaccine was having clinical trials on animals.
Certainly not the Corona-19 vaccination which has been tested on
tens of thousands of individuals.
Many of whom have already gotten sick. Some who participated in recent
trials in certain countries have died. Some have come down with Bell's Palsy
and other debilitating conditions.
On the other hand most people I know who have not have any vaccine are
perfectly healthy.
Or maybe in Australia they don't do
Post by Bobbie Sellers
that before using vaccines on the General Public, eh Bruce.
Post by Andrew
Later when these animals were challenged
with the~real~virus -- they all died.
The vaccine caused their bodies to have a hyper-immune reaction called a
cytokine storm, which killed every animal in the test.
We already know that a single dose of the virus reduces the worst
symptoms of a Covid-19 infection.
Do you and Austin suffer from a Mask fetish? I keep forgetting
mine so have finally given up hope of debuting as a costumed vigilante
We can be pretty sure after the tests done this fall that the
vaccine is effective.
You are sure?? How? You have unfounded faith in authorities and
corporations. Why do you put 100% trust in them? That is foolish.
Post by Bobbie Sellers
You are just another dim anti-vaccination person who is willing
for others to die so that you and yours may be spared the illusory
side-effects of any vaccination.
Up to 99% of people recover from covid. That's the same as the flu years
before. So why the panic now? I can tell you but you wouldn't believe it
because you can't comprehend what our government's agenda really is. You
would be shocked.
Post by Bobbie Sellers
bliss - former nurse, vaccinated in the 1940s when it was a solid school
requirement, lived thru Polio restrictions every summer.
Had the full military course of vaccines in the 1950s, including two
forms of polio vaccine. Survived the 1st Asian influenza attack,
got no swine flue, survived HIV-AIDS epidemic by not getting infected.
Vaccinated against the influenza every year from 40 -83 yoa.
People I know who haven't been vaccinated for many years didn't get any of
those infections.
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Lots of other vaccines as recommended by physicians.
Todays physicians are dumb. They are just highly paid drug pushers for drug
corporations. There have been more complaints against physicians in the last
ten years than against politicians, stock brokers or anyone you care to
mention.
Ted
2021-01-01 03:07:09 UTC
Reply
Permalink
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 10:30:53 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Post by Andrew
Post by M I Wakefield
So, is "Steve Austin" really "Andrew W", aka Fuckwit, or did we just
get really lucky, and have two certifiable Australian
anti-vaxxers
Post by Andrew W
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Post by Andrew
Post by M I Wakefield
turn up?
He has solid science to back up his claims.
None at all...
Your un-researched opinion.
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Post by Andrew
Whereas you have only philosophical bias.
My bias is toward the truth of matters if
such truth can be found.
If you follow the mockingbird media then you are getting the
opposite of the
Post by Andrew W
truth.
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Post by Andrew
But go ahead and get your mRNA vax.
What they don't tell you on the news is that a few years ago the mRNA
vaccine was having clinical trials on animals.
Certainly not the Corona-19 vaccination which has been tested on
tens of thousands of individuals.
Many of whom have already gotten sick. Some who participated in recent
trials in certain countries have died. Some have come down with Bell's Palsy
and other debilitating conditions.
On the other hand most people I know who have not have any vaccine are
perfectly healthy.
Or maybe in Australia they don't do
Post by Bobbie Sellers
that before using vaccines on the General Public, eh Bruce.
Post by Andrew
Later when these animals were challenged
with the~real~virus -- they all died.
The vaccine caused their bodies to have a hyper-immune reaction called a
cytokine storm, which killed every animal in the test.
We already know that a single dose of the virus reduces the worst
symptoms of a Covid-19 infection.
Do you and Austin suffer from a Mask fetish? I keep forgetting
mine so have finally given up hope of debuting as a costumed
vigilante
Post by Andrew W
Post by Bobbie Sellers
We can be pretty sure after the tests done this fall that the
vaccine is effective.
You are sure?? How? You have unfounded faith in authorities and
corporations. Why do you put 100% trust in them? That is foolish.
Post by Bobbie Sellers
You are just another dim anti-vaccination person who is willing
for others to die so that you and yours may be spared the illusory
side-effects of any vaccination.
Up to 99% of people recover from covid. That's the same as the flu years
before. So why the panic now? I can tell you but you wouldn't
believe it
Post by Andrew W
because you can't comprehend what our government's agenda really is. You
would be shocked.
Post by Bobbie Sellers
bliss - former nurse, vaccinated in the 1940s when it was a solid school
requirement, lived thru Polio restrictions every summer.
Had the full military course of vaccines in the 1950s, including two
forms of polio vaccine. Survived the 1st Asian influenza attack,
got no swine flue, survived HIV-AIDS epidemic by not getting
infected.
Post by Andrew W
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Vaccinated against the influenza every year from 40 -83 yoa.
People I know who haven't been vaccinated for many years didn't get any of
those infections.
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Lots of other vaccines as recommended by physicians.
Todays physicians are dumb. They are just highly paid drug pushers for drug
corporations.
That's utter bullshit. At least in the US. I've known some dedicated
physicians.
Andrew W
2021-01-01 04:34:39 UTC
Reply
Permalink
Post by Ted
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 10:30:53 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Post by Andrew
Post by M I Wakefield
So, is "Steve Austin" really "Andrew W", aka Fuckwit, or did we
just
Post by Andrew W
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Post by Andrew
Post by M I Wakefield
get really lucky, and have two certifiable Australian
anti-vaxxers
Post by Andrew W
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Post by Andrew
Post by M I Wakefield
turn up?
He has solid science to back up his claims.
None at all...
Your un-researched opinion.
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Post by Andrew
Whereas you have only philosophical bias.
My bias is toward the truth of matters if
such truth can be found.
If you follow the mockingbird media then you are getting the
opposite of the
Post by Andrew W
truth.
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Post by Andrew
But go ahead and get your mRNA vax.
What they don't tell you on the news is that a few years ago the
mRNA
Post by Andrew W
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Post by Andrew
vaccine was having clinical trials on animals.
Certainly not the Corona-19 vaccination which has been tested on
tens of thousands of individuals.
Many of whom have already gotten sick. Some who participated in
recent
Post by Andrew W
trials in certain countries have died. Some have come down with
Bell's Palsy
Post by Andrew W
and other debilitating conditions.
On the other hand most people I know who have not have any vaccine
are
Post by Andrew W
perfectly healthy.
Or maybe in Australia they don't do
Post by Bobbie Sellers
that before using vaccines on the General Public, eh Bruce.
Post by Andrew
Later when these animals were challenged
with the~real~virus -- they all died.
The vaccine caused their bodies to have a hyper-immune reaction
called a
Post by Andrew W
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Post by Andrew
cytokine storm, which killed every animal in the test.
We already know that a single dose of the virus reduces the worst
symptoms of a Covid-19 infection.
Do you and Austin suffer from a Mask fetish? I keep forgetting
mine so have finally given up hope of debuting as a costumed
vigilante
Post by Andrew W
Post by Bobbie Sellers
We can be pretty sure after the tests done this fall that the
vaccine is effective.
You are sure?? How? You have unfounded faith in authorities and
corporations. Why do you put 100% trust in them? That is foolish.
Post by Bobbie Sellers
You are just another dim anti-vaccination person who is willing
for others to die so that you and yours may be spared the illusory
side-effects of any vaccination.
Up to 99% of people recover from covid. That's the same as the flu
years
Post by Andrew W
before. So why the panic now? I can tell you but you wouldn't
believe it
Post by Andrew W
because you can't comprehend what our government's agenda really
is. You
Post by Andrew W
would be shocked.
Post by Bobbie Sellers
bliss - former nurse, vaccinated in the 1940s when it was a solid
school
Post by Andrew W
Post by Bobbie Sellers
requirement, lived thru Polio restrictions every summer.
Had the full military course of vaccines in the 1950s, including
two
Post by Andrew W
Post by Bobbie Sellers
forms of polio vaccine. Survived the 1st Asian influenza attack,
got no swine flue, survived HIV-AIDS epidemic by not getting
infected.
Post by Andrew W
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Vaccinated against the influenza every year from 40 -83 yoa.
People I know who haven't been vaccinated for many years didn't get
any of
Post by Andrew W
those infections.
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Lots of other vaccines as recommended by physicians.
Todays physicians are dumb. They are just highly paid drug pushers
for drug
Post by Andrew W
corporations.
That's utter bullshit. At least in the US. I've known some dedicated
physicians.
Yes there are some good doctors. No one would say there are zero good ones.
Ted
2021-01-01 04:49:36 UTC
Reply
Permalink
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 15:34:39 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by Ted
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 10:30:53 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Post by Andrew
Post by M I Wakefield
So, is "Steve Austin" really "Andrew W", aka Fuckwit, or did we
just
Post by Andrew W
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Post by Andrew
Post by M I Wakefield
get really lucky, and have two certifiable Australian
anti-vaxxers
Post by Andrew W
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Post by Andrew
Post by M I Wakefield
turn up?
He has solid science to back up his claims.
None at all...
Your un-researched opinion.
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Post by Andrew
Whereas you have only philosophical bias.
My bias is toward the truth of matters if
such truth can be found.
If you follow the mockingbird media then you are getting the
opposite of the
Post by Andrew W
truth.
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Post by Andrew
But go ahead and get your mRNA vax.
What they don't tell you on the news is that a few years ago the
mRNA
Post by Andrew W
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Post by Andrew
vaccine was having clinical trials on animals.
Certainly not the Corona-19 vaccination which has been tested on
tens of thousands of individuals.
Many of whom have already gotten sick. Some who participated in
recent
Post by Andrew W
trials in certain countries have died. Some have come down with
Bell's Palsy
Post by Andrew W
and other debilitating conditions.
On the other hand most people I know who have not have any
vaccine
Post by Andrew W
Post by Ted
are
Post by Andrew W
perfectly healthy.
Or maybe in Australia they don't do
Post by Bobbie Sellers
that before using vaccines on the General Public, eh Bruce.
Post by Andrew
Later when these animals were challenged
with the~real~virus -- they all died.
The vaccine caused their bodies to have a hyper-immune
reaction
Post by Andrew W
Post by Ted
called a
Post by Andrew W
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Post by Andrew
cytokine storm, which killed every animal in the test.
We already know that a single dose of the virus reduces the worst
symptoms of a Covid-19 infection.
Do you and Austin suffer from a Mask fetish? I keep forgetting
mine so have finally given up hope of debuting as a costumed
vigilante
Post by Andrew W
Post by Bobbie Sellers
We can be pretty sure after the tests done this fall that the
vaccine is effective.
You are sure?? How? You have unfounded faith in authorities and
corporations. Why do you put 100% trust in them? That is foolish.
Post by Bobbie Sellers
You are just another dim anti-vaccination person who is willing
for others to die so that you and yours may be spared the
illusory
Post by Andrew W
Post by Ted
Post by Andrew W
Post by Bobbie Sellers
side-effects of any vaccination.
Up to 99% of people recover from covid. That's the same as the flu
years
Post by Andrew W
before. So why the panic now? I can tell you but you wouldn't
believe it
Post by Andrew W
because you can't comprehend what our government's agenda really
is. You
Post by Andrew W
would be shocked.
Post by Bobbie Sellers
bliss - former nurse, vaccinated in the 1940s when it was a solid
school
Post by Andrew W
Post by Bobbie Sellers
requirement, lived thru Polio restrictions every summer.
Had the full military course of vaccines in the 1950s, including
two
Post by Andrew W
Post by Bobbie Sellers
forms of polio vaccine. Survived the 1st Asian influenza attack,
got no swine flue, survived HIV-AIDS epidemic by not getting
infected.
Post by Andrew W
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Vaccinated against the influenza every year from 40 -83 yoa.
People I know who haven't been vaccinated for many years didn't get
any of
Post by Andrew W
those infections.
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Lots of other vaccines as recommended by physicians.
Todays physicians are dumb. They are just highly paid drug
pushers
Post by Andrew W
Post by Ted
for drug
Post by Andrew W
corporations.
That's utter bullshit. At least in the US. I've known some
dedicated
Post by Andrew W
Post by Ted
physicians.
Yes there are some good doctors. No one would say there are zero good ones.
Thanks Andrew. I've known bad ones too.
Bobbie Sellers
2021-01-01 03:22:08 UTC
Reply
Permalink
Post by Andrew W
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Post by Andrew
Post by M I Wakefield
So, is "Steve Austin" really "Andrew W", aka Fuckwit, or did we just
get really lucky, and have two certifiable Australian anti-vaxxers
turn up?
He has solid science to back up his claims.
None at all...
Your un-researched opinion.
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Post by Andrew
Whereas you have only philosophical bias.
My bias is toward the truth of matters if
such truth can be found.
If you follow the mockingbird media then you are getting the opposite of
the truth.
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Post by Andrew
But go ahead and get your mRNA vax.
What they don't tell you on the news is that a few years ago the mRNA
vaccine was having clinical trials on animals.
Certainly not the Corona-19 vaccination which has been tested on
tens of thousands of individuals.
Many of whom have already gotten sick. Some who participated in recent
trials in certain countries have died. Some have come down with Bell's
Palsy and other debilitating conditions.
How dim are you that you connect proximity with causation?
Post by Andrew W
On the other hand most people I know who have not have any vaccine are
perfectly healthy.
How old are you? Must be pretty young and not have a wide circle of
friends? I am 83 and I know 3 people younger than myself
who have serious cancer. Another has nearly recovered from cancer
but have acquired serious tremors.

Most of the friends I had before I was 40 died in the
HIV-AIDs epidemic. Some killed themselves fragile souls before
the cure and prophylactic medicines could be discovered and invented.
Post by Andrew W
Or maybe in Australia they don't do
Post by Bobbie Sellers
that before using vaccines on the General Public, eh Bruce.
Post by Andrew
Later when these animals were challenged
with the~real~virus -- they all died.
The vaccine caused their bodies to have a hyper-immune reaction
called a cytokine storm, which killed every animal in the test.
We already know that a single dose of the virus reduces the worst
symptoms of a Covid-19 infection.
Do you and Austin suffer from a Mask fetish? I keep forgetting
mine so have finally given up hope of debuting as a costumed vigilante
We can be pretty sure after the tests done this fall that the
vaccine is effective.
You are sure?? How? You have unfounded faith in authorities and
corporations. Why do you put 100% trust in them? That is foolish.
Not as foolish as you whom has conceived of a distrust
of all authority.
Post by Andrew W
Post by Bobbie Sellers
You are just another dim anti-vaccination person who is willing
for others to die so that you and yours may be spared the illusory
side-effects of any vaccination.
Up to 99% of people recover from covid. That's the same as the flu years
before. So why the panic now? I can tell you but you wouldn't believe it
because you can't comprehend what our government's agenda really is.
You > would be shocked.



Yes and in the USA where the president refused to tell the people the
truth 345,000 people are dead and I am sure at current rates it will
hit 400,000. If everyone in the USA got Covid-19 we would have
about 3,340,000 million deaths at a guess with 99% survival rate.
Likely I would not be here to refute your QNon nonsense.


Right now in Southern California morgues are full of corpses.
Undertakers are completely overwhelmed and cannot offer services
to grieving families.

Last year in the USA we this much trouble with Influenza
<https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2019-2020.html>

Symptomatic Illnesses Medical Visits
All ages 38,194,505 17,526,381

Hospitalizations Deaths
404,646 21,909
Post by Andrew W
Post by Bobbie Sellers
bliss - former nurse, vaccinated in the 1940s when it was a solid
school requirement, lived thru Polio restrictions every summer.
Had the full military course of vaccines in the 1950s, including two
forms of polio vaccine. Survived the 1st Asian influenza attack,
got no swine flue, survived HIV-AIDS epidemic by not getting infected.
Vaccinated against the influenza every year from 40 -83 yoa.
People I know who haven't been vaccinated for many years didn't get any
of those infections.
`
Idiot! Why do you think those vaccination are willingly taken
and happily given. To build up the herd immunity though maybe we should
simply call it mob immunity.
Post by Andrew W
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Lots of other vaccines as recommended by physicians.
Todays physicians are dumb. They are just highly paid drug pushers for
drug corporations. There have been more complaints against physicians in
the last ten years than against politicians, stock brokers or anyone you
care to mention.
Usually not over vaccinations.


bliss
Andrew W
2021-01-01 04:40:49 UTC
Reply
Permalink
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Post by Andrew W
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Post by Andrew
Post by M I Wakefield
So, is "Steve Austin" really "Andrew W", aka Fuckwit, or did we just
get really lucky, and have two certifiable Australian anti-vaxxers
turn up?
He has solid science to back up his claims.
None at all...
Your un-researched opinion.
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Post by Andrew
Whereas you have only philosophical bias.
My bias is toward the truth of matters if
such truth can be found.
If you follow the mockingbird media then you are getting the opposite of
the truth.
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Post by Andrew
But go ahead and get your mRNA vax.
What they don't tell you on the news is that a few years ago the mRNA
vaccine was having clinical trials on animals.
Certainly not the Corona-19 vaccination which has been tested on
tens of thousands of individuals.
Many of whom have already gotten sick. Some who participated in recent
trials in certain countries have died. Some have come down with Bell's
Palsy and other debilitating conditions.
How dim are you that you connect proximity with causation?
Post by Andrew W
On the other hand most people I know who have not have any vaccine are
perfectly healthy.
How old are you? Must be pretty young and not have a wide circle of
friends? I am 83 and I know 3 people younger than myself
who have serious cancer. Another has nearly recovered from cancer
but have acquired serious tremors.
Most of the friends I had before I was 40 died in the
HIV-AIDs epidemic. Some killed themselves fragile souls before
the cure and prophylactic medicines could be discovered and invented.
Post by Andrew W
Or maybe in Australia they don't do
Post by Bobbie Sellers
that before using vaccines on the General Public, eh Bruce.
Post by Andrew
Later when these animals were challenged
with the~real~virus -- they all died.
The vaccine caused their bodies to have a hyper-immune reaction
called a cytokine storm, which killed every animal in the test.
We already know that a single dose of the virus reduces the worst
symptoms of a Covid-19 infection.
Do you and Austin suffer from a Mask fetish? I keep forgetting
mine so have finally given up hope of debuting as a costumed vigilante
We can be pretty sure after the tests done this fall that the
vaccine is effective.
You are sure?? How? You have unfounded faith in authorities and
corporations. Why do you put 100% trust in them? That is foolish.
Not as foolish as you whom has conceived of a distrust
of all authority.
All authority?? Who said that?
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Post by Andrew W
Post by Bobbie Sellers
You are just another dim anti-vaccination person who is willing
for others to die so that you and yours may be spared the illusory
side-effects of any vaccination.
Up to 99% of people recover from covid. That's the same as the flu years
before. So why the panic now? I can tell you but you wouldn't believe it
because you can't comprehend what our government's agenda really is.
You > would be shocked.
Yes and in the USA where the president refused to tell the people the
truth 345,000 people are dead and I am sure at current rates it will
hit 400,000. If everyone in the USA got Covid-19 we would have
about 3,340,000 million deaths at a guess with 99% survival rate.
Likely I would not be here to refute your QNon nonsense.
You are following mainstream media lies too much.
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Right now in Southern California morgues are full of corpses.
Undertakers are completely overwhelmed and cannot offer services
to grieving families.
Last year in the USA we this much trouble with Influenza
<https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2019-2020.html>
Symptomatic Illnesses Medical Visits All ages 38,194,505
17,526,381
Hospitalizations Deaths
404,646 21,909
Post by Andrew W
Post by Bobbie Sellers
bliss - former nurse, vaccinated in the 1940s when it was a solid
school requirement, lived thru Polio restrictions every summer.
Had the full military course of vaccines in the 1950s, including two
forms of polio vaccine. Survived the 1st Asian influenza attack,
got no swine flue, survived HIV-AIDS epidemic by not getting infected.
Vaccinated against the influenza every year from 40 -83 yoa.
People I know who haven't been vaccinated for many years didn't get any
of those infections.
`
Idiot! Why do you think those vaccination are willingly taken
and happily given. To build up the herd immunity though maybe we should
simply call it mob immunity.
Post by Andrew W
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Lots of other vaccines as recommended by physicians.
Todays physicians are dumb. They are just highly paid drug pushers for
drug corporations. There have been more complaints against physicians in
the last ten years than against politicians, stock brokers or anyone you
care to mention.
Usually not over vaccinations.
Why the exemption with this one thing?
M I Wakefield
2020-12-31 16:49:23 UTC
Reply
Permalink
On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 06:48:27 -0800, "Andrew"
Post by Andrew
Post by M I Wakefield
So, is "Steve Austin" really "Andrew W", aka Fuckwit, or did we just
get really lucky, and have two certifiable Australian anti-vaxxers
turn up?
He has solid science to back up his claims.
And he's down ... down at the first hurdle.
a322x1n
2020-12-31 18:24:08 UTC
Reply
Permalink
Post by Andrew
Post by M I Wakefield
So, is "Steve Austin" really "Andrew W", aka Fuckwit, or did we just
get really lucky, and have two certifiable Australian anti-vaxxers
turn up?
He has solid science to back up his claims.
Bull shit, he only has the lies he's dreamed up. Go feed Fancy Bear
and Cozy Bear.
Limbaugh Whisperer
2021-01-01 16:47:39 UTC
Reply
Permalink
Post by a322x1n
Post by Andrew
Post by M I Wakefield
So, is "Steve Austin" really "Andrew W", aka Fuckwit, or did we just
get really lucky, and have two certifiable Australian anti-vaxxers
turn up?
He has solid science to back up his claims.
Bull shit, he only has the lies he's dreamed up. Go feed Fancy Bear
and Cozy Bear.
COVID 19 is like AIDS. That's why Mitch McConnell squats to piss and is
afraid of toilet seats.
a322x1n
2020-12-31 18:21:06 UTC
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"Steve Austin" <***@bigpond.net.au> wrote in news:%SjHH.775423$***@usenetxs.com:

<snip> Usual bull shit, why repost disinformation? </snip>

Yes, it's a disinformation and lie rag site, no accurate
information or news.

Yes, he's a quack, if he even exists.

On the other hand, you have probably convinced some people
not to take a vaccine, which, in this day and age means
you've killed them. What do you do in your spare time,
mess with traffic signs?
Andrew W
2020-12-31 23:39:10 UTC
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Permalink
Post by a322x1n
<snip> Usual bull shit, why repost disinformation? </snip>
Yes, it's a disinformation and lie rag site, no accurate
information or news.
Yes, he's a quack, if he even exists.
On the other hand, you have probably convinced some people
not to take a vaccine, which, in this day and age means
you've killed them. What do you do in your spare time,
mess with traffic signs?
Killed them?? Up to 99% of people recover from covid.
You don't need a vaccine, you need psychiatric treatment.
M I Wakefield
2021-01-01 00:52:04 UTC
Reply
Permalink
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 10:39:10 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by a322x1n
<snip> Usual bull shit, why repost disinformation? </snip>
Yes, it's a disinformation and lie rag site, no accurate
information or news.
Yes, he's a quack, if he even exists.
On the other hand, you have probably convinced some people
not to take a vaccine, which, in this day and age means
you've killed them. What do you do in your spare time,
mess with traffic signs?
Killed them?? Up to 99% of people recover from covid.
You don't need a vaccine, you need psychiatric treatment.
No, Fuckwit, you need a vaccine because while COVID has killed 3%,
it's not a binary disease, where the options are recover or die.

Survivors have been left with heart damage, amputations, lung damage
so severe that they will require transplants, psychiatric issues, or
an illness that lingers for months.
Andrew W
2021-01-01 01:06:38 UTC
Reply
Permalink
Post by M I Wakefield
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 10:39:10 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by a322x1n
<snip> Usual bull shit, why repost disinformation? </snip>
Yes, it's a disinformation and lie rag site, no accurate
information or news.
Yes, he's a quack, if he even exists.
On the other hand, you have probably convinced some people
not to take a vaccine, which, in this day and age means
you've killed them. What do you do in your spare time,
mess with traffic signs?
Killed them?? Up to 99% of people recover from covid.
You don't need a vaccine, you need psychiatric treatment.
No, Fuckwit, you need a vaccine because while COVID has killed 3%,
it's not a binary disease, where the options are recover or die.
Survivors have been left with heart damage, amputations, lung damage
so severe that they will require transplants, psychiatric issues, or
an illness that lingers for months.
That's the result of chemical weapons which US corporations have patents for
and recently started using in different countries.
Covid is a combination of biological and chemical attack on the people to
destroy economies and small and medium businesses to implement a global
economy and government and make the people dependant on them. Why? For
maximum control over populations.
M I Wakefield
2021-01-01 03:02:32 UTC
Reply
Permalink
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 12:06:38 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 10:39:10 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by a322x1n
<snip> Usual bull shit, why repost disinformation? </snip>
Yes, it's a disinformation and lie rag site, no accurate
information or news.
Yes, he's a quack, if he even exists.
On the other hand, you have probably convinced some people
not to take a vaccine, which, in this day and age means
you've killed them. What do you do in your spare time,
mess with traffic signs?
Killed them?? Up to 99% of people recover from covid.
You don't need a vaccine, you need psychiatric treatment.
No, Fuckwit, you need a vaccine because while COVID has killed 3%,
it's not a binary disease, where the options are recover or die.
Survivors have been left with heart damage, amputations, lung damage
so severe that they will require transplants, psychiatric issues, or
an illness that lingers for months.
Some of you may have wondered why I tagged poor Andrew with the
sobriquet "Fuckwit".
Post by Andrew W
That's the result of chemical weapons which US corporations have patents for
and recently started using in different countries.
Covid is a combination of biological and chemical attack on the people to
destroy economies and small and medium businesses to implement a global
economy and government and make the people dependant on them. Why? For
maximum control over populations.
a322x1n
2021-01-01 03:24:25 UTC
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Post by M I Wakefield
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 12:06:38 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 10:39:10 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by a322x1n
<snip> Usual bull shit, why repost disinformation? </snip>
Yes, it's a disinformation and lie rag site, no accurate
information or news.
Yes, he's a quack, if he even exists.
On the other hand, you have probably convinced some people
not to take a vaccine, which, in this day and age means
you've killed them. What do you do in your spare time,
mess with traffic signs?
Killed them?? Up to 99% of people recover from covid.
You don't need a vaccine, you need psychiatric treatment.
No, Fuckwit, you need a vaccine because while COVID has killed 3%,
it's not a binary disease, where the options are recover or die.
Survivors have been left with heart damage, amputations, lung damage
so severe that they will require transplants, psychiatric issues, or
an illness that lingers for months.
Some of you may have wondered why I tagged poor Andrew with the
sobriquet "Fuckwit".
Post by Andrew W
That's the result of chemical weapons which US corporations have
patents for and recently started using in different countries.
Covid is a combination of biological and chemical attack on the people
to destroy economies and small and medium businesses to implement a
global economy and government and make the people dependant on them.
Why? For maximum control over populations.
You're right. This is one sick puppy!
a322x1n
2021-01-01 03:24:25 UTC
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Post by M I Wakefield
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 12:06:38 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 10:39:10 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by a322x1n
<snip> Usual bull shit, why repost disinformation? </snip>
Yes, it's a disinformation and lie rag site, no accurate
information or news.
Yes, he's a quack, if he even exists.
On the other hand, you have probably convinced some people
not to take a vaccine, which, in this day and age means
you've killed them. What do you do in your spare time,
mess with traffic signs?
Killed them?? Up to 99% of people recover from covid.
You don't need a vaccine, you need psychiatric treatment.
No, Fuckwit, you need a vaccine because while COVID has killed 3%,
it's not a binary disease, where the options are recover or die.
Survivors have been left with heart damage, amputations, lung damage
so severe that they will require transplants, psychiatric issues, or
an illness that lingers for months.
Some of you may have wondered why I tagged poor Andrew with the
sobriquet "Fuckwit".
Post by Andrew W
That's the result of chemical weapons which US corporations have
patents for and recently started using in different countries.
Covid is a combination of biological and chemical attack on the people
to destroy economies and small and medium businesses to implement a
global economy and government and make the people dependant on them.
Why? For maximum control over populations.
You're right. This is one sick puppy!
Ted
2021-01-01 03:03:17 UTC
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On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 12:06:38 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 10:39:10 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by a322x1n
<snip> Usual bull shit, why repost disinformation? </snip>
Yes, it's a disinformation and lie rag site, no accurate
information or news.
Yes, he's a quack, if he even exists.
On the other hand, you have probably convinced some people
not to take a vaccine, which, in this day and age means
you've killed them. What do you do in your spare time,
mess with traffic signs?
Killed them?? Up to 99% of people recover from covid.
You don't need a vaccine, you need psychiatric treatment.
No, Fuckwit, you need a vaccine because while COVID has killed 3%,
it's not a binary disease, where the options are recover or die.
Survivors have been left with heart damage, amputations, lung
damage
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
so severe that they will require transplants, psychiatric issues, or
an illness that lingers for months.
That's the result of chemical weapons which US corporations have patents for
and recently started using in different countries.
Covid is a combination of biological and chemical attack on the people to
destroy economies and small and medium businesses to implement a global
economy and government and make the people dependant on them. Why? For
maximum control over populations.
Why do you suspect it was planned? Just because of the effect you
mentioned?
Andrew W
2021-01-01 05:22:53 UTC
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Post by M I Wakefield
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 12:06:38 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 10:39:10 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by a322x1n
<snip> Usual bull shit, why repost disinformation? </snip>
Yes, it's a disinformation and lie rag site, no accurate
information or news.
Yes, he's a quack, if he even exists.
On the other hand, you have probably convinced some people
not to take a vaccine, which, in this day and age means
you've killed them. What do you do in your spare time,
mess with traffic signs?
Killed them?? Up to 99% of people recover from covid.
You don't need a vaccine, you need psychiatric treatment.
No, Fuckwit, you need a vaccine because while COVID has killed 3%,
it's not a binary disease, where the options are recover or die.
Survivors have been left with heart damage, amputations, lung
damage
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
so severe that they will require transplants, psychiatric issues,
or
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
an illness that lingers for months.
That's the result of chemical weapons which US corporations have
patents for
Post by Andrew W
and recently started using in different countries.
Covid is a combination of biological and chemical attack on the
people to
Post by Andrew W
destroy economies and small and medium businesses to implement a
global
Post by Andrew W
economy and government and make the people dependant on them. Why?
For
Post by Andrew W
maximum control over populations.
Why do you suspect it was planned? Just because of the effect you
mentioned?
The Rothschild, Rockefeller and other rich families, Bill Gates, The Georgia
Guidestones etc. have made it clear that they are desperate to reduce the
world population.
https://trueblog.net/the-bizarre-georgia-guidestones-and-population-control-5711/
Bobbie Sellers
2021-01-01 06:00:31 UTC
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Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 12:06:38 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 10:39:10 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by a322x1n
<snip> Usual bull shit, why repost disinformation? </snip>
Yes, it's a disinformation and lie rag site, no accurate
information or news.
Yes, he's a quack, if he even exists.
On the other hand, you have probably convinced some people
not to take a vaccine, which, in this day and age means
you've killed them. What do you do in your spare time,
mess with traffic signs?
Killed them?? Up to 99% of people recover from covid.
You don't need a vaccine, you need psychiatric treatment.
No, Fuckwit, you need a vaccine because while COVID has killed 3%,
it's not a binary disease, where the options are recover or die.
Survivors have been left with heart damage, amputations, lung
damage
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
so severe that they will require transplants, psychiatric issues,
or
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
an illness that lingers for months.
That's the result of chemical weapons which US corporations have
patents for
Post by Andrew W
and recently started using in different countries.
Covid is a combination of biological and chemical attack on the
people to
Post by Andrew W
destroy economies and small and medium businesses to implement a
global
Post by Andrew W
economy and government and make the people dependant on them. Why?
For
Post by Andrew W
maximum control over populations.
Why do you suspect it was planned? Just because of the effect you
mentioned?
The Rothschild, Rockefeller and other rich families, Bill Gates, The
Georgia Guidestones etc. have made it clear that they are desperate to
reduce the world population.
https://trueblog.net/the-bizarre-georgia-guidestones-and-population-control-5711/


Yes that is full of hilarious misapprenhensions and obviously
faked photos of people in makeup and latex masks, a site for swindlers
and madmen to take advantage of the credulous.

It is well-known that the best route to population increase reduction
is educating girls and women so that they can beome capable
of independence from abusive males.
All of the named have been working on that angle. This is
likely why you named them is that you do not want them or yourself
educated according to scientific methods and pursuits.

So are you a Christian Mysogynist or a Muslim Mysogynist?
Buddhist, Hindu, Shintoist, Mysognist?

But clearly misogynist from what you say

And a Troll

“Nearly any fool can use a computer. Many do.” After all here We am...
Ted
2021-01-01 23:36:34 UTC
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On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 16:22:53 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 12:06:38 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 10:39:10 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by a322x1n
<snip> Usual bull shit, why repost disinformation? </snip>
Yes, it's a disinformation and lie rag site, no accurate
information or news.
Yes, he's a quack, if he even exists.
On the other hand, you have probably convinced some people
not to take a vaccine, which, in this day and age means
you've killed them. What do you do in your spare time,
mess with traffic signs?
Killed them?? Up to 99% of people recover from covid.
You don't need a vaccine, you need psychiatric treatment.
No, Fuckwit, you need a vaccine because while COVID has killed 3%,
it's not a binary disease, where the options are recover or die.
Survivors have been left with heart damage, amputations, lung
damage
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
so severe that they will require transplants, psychiatric
issues,
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
or
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
an illness that lingers for months.
That's the result of chemical weapons which US corporations have
patents for
Post by Andrew W
and recently started using in different countries.
Covid is a combination of biological and chemical attack on the
people to
Post by Andrew W
destroy economies and small and medium businesses to implement a
global
Post by Andrew W
economy and government and make the people dependant on them. Why?
For
Post by Andrew W
maximum control over populations.
Why do you suspect it was planned? Just because of the effect you
mentioned?
The Rothschild, Rockefeller and other rich families, Bill Gates, The Georgia
Guidestones etc. have made it clear that they are desperate to
reduce the
Post by Andrew W
world population.
https://trueblog.net/the-bizarre-georgia-guidestones-and-population-con
trol-5711/


If they wanted to kill people, they could do better than this.
Andrew W
2021-01-01 23:50:16 UTC
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Post by Ted
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 16:22:53 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 12:06:38 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 10:39:10 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by a322x1n
<snip> Usual bull shit, why repost disinformation? </snip>
Yes, it's a disinformation and lie rag site, no accurate
information or news.
Yes, he's a quack, if he even exists.
On the other hand, you have probably convinced some people
not to take a vaccine, which, in this day and age means
you've killed them. What do you do in your spare time,
mess with traffic signs?
Killed them?? Up to 99% of people recover from covid.
You don't need a vaccine, you need psychiatric treatment.
No, Fuckwit, you need a vaccine because while COVID has killed
3%,
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
it's not a binary disease, where the options are recover or die.
Survivors have been left with heart damage, amputations, lung
damage
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
so severe that they will require transplants, psychiatric
issues,
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
or
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
an illness that lingers for months.
That's the result of chemical weapons which US corporations have
patents for
Post by Andrew W
and recently started using in different countries.
Covid is a combination of biological and chemical attack on the
people to
Post by Andrew W
destroy economies and small and medium businesses to implement a
global
Post by Andrew W
economy and government and make the people dependant on them.
Why?
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
For
Post by Andrew W
maximum control over populations.
Why do you suspect it was planned? Just because of the effect you
mentioned?
The Rothschild, Rockefeller and other rich families, Bill Gates,
The Georgia
Post by Andrew W
Guidestones etc. have made it clear that they are desperate to
reduce the
Post by Andrew W
world population.
https://trueblog.net/the-bizarre-georgia-guidestones-and-population-con
trol-5711/
If they wanted to kill people, they could do better than this.
How? They see us as vermin or cattle.
Ted
2021-01-02 23:11:46 UTC
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On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 10:50:16 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by Ted
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 16:22:53 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 12:06:38 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 10:39:10 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by a322x1n
<snip> Usual bull shit, why repost disinformation? </snip>
Yes, it's a disinformation and lie rag site, no accurate
information or news.
Yes, he's a quack, if he even exists.
On the other hand, you have probably convinced some people
not to take a vaccine, which, in this day and age means
you've killed them. What do you do in your spare time,
mess with traffic signs?
Killed them?? Up to 99% of people recover from covid.
You don't need a vaccine, you need psychiatric treatment.
No, Fuckwit, you need a vaccine because while COVID has
killed
Post by Andrew W
Post by Ted
3%,
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
it's not a binary disease, where the options are recover or die.
Survivors have been left with heart damage, amputations, lung
damage
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
so severe that they will require transplants, psychiatric
issues,
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
or
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
an illness that lingers for months.
That's the result of chemical weapons which US corporations have
patents for
Post by Andrew W
and recently started using in different countries.
Covid is a combination of biological and chemical attack on the
people to
Post by Andrew W
destroy economies and small and medium businesses to
implement a
Post by Andrew W
Post by Ted
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
global
Post by Andrew W
economy and government and make the people dependant on them.
Why?
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
For
Post by Andrew W
maximum control over populations.
Why do you suspect it was planned? Just because of the effect you
mentioned?
The Rothschild, Rockefeller and other rich families, Bill Gates,
The Georgia
Post by Andrew W
Guidestones etc. have made it clear that they are desperate to
reduce the
Post by Andrew W
world population.
https://trueblog.net/the-bizarre-georgia-guidestones-and-population-co
n
Post by Andrew W
Post by Ted
trol-5711/
If they wanted to kill people, they could do better than this.
How? They see us as vermin or cattle.
But they haven't yet actively begun killing us.
Andrew W
2021-01-04 00:28:00 UTC
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Post by Ted
On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 10:50:16 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by Ted
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 16:22:53 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 12:06:38 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 10:39:10 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by a322x1n
<snip> Usual bull shit, why repost disinformation? </snip>
Yes, it's a disinformation and lie rag site, no accurate
information or news.
Yes, he's a quack, if he even exists.
On the other hand, you have probably convinced some people
not to take a vaccine, which, in this day and age means
you've killed them. What do you do in your spare time,
mess with traffic signs?
Killed them?? Up to 99% of people recover from covid.
You don't need a vaccine, you need psychiatric treatment.
No, Fuckwit, you need a vaccine because while COVID has
killed
Post by Andrew W
Post by Ted
3%,
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
it's not a binary disease, where the options are recover or
die.
Post by Andrew W
Post by Ted
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
Survivors have been left with heart damage, amputations, lung
damage
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
so severe that they will require transplants, psychiatric
issues,
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
or
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
an illness that lingers for months.
That's the result of chemical weapons which US corporations
have
Post by Andrew W
Post by Ted
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
patents for
Post by Andrew W
and recently started using in different countries.
Covid is a combination of biological and chemical attack on
the
Post by Andrew W
Post by Ted
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
people to
Post by Andrew W
destroy economies and small and medium businesses to
implement a
Post by Andrew W
Post by Ted
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
global
Post by Andrew W
economy and government and make the people dependant on them.
Why?
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
For
Post by Andrew W
maximum control over populations.
Why do you suspect it was planned? Just because of the effect
you
Post by Andrew W
Post by Ted
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
mentioned?
The Rothschild, Rockefeller and other rich families, Bill Gates,
The Georgia
Post by Andrew W
Guidestones etc. have made it clear that they are desperate to
reduce the
Post by Andrew W
world population.
https://trueblog.net/the-bizarre-georgia-guidestones-and-population-co
n
Post by Andrew W
Post by Ted
trol-5711/
If they wanted to kill people, they could do better than this.
How? They see us as vermin or cattle.
But they haven't yet actively begun killing us.
What method do you think they'll choose?
How about a virus created in a partly US headed lab in China.
KWills
2021-01-04 09:35:52 UTC
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On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 11:28:00 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by Ted
On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 10:50:16 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by Ted
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 16:22:53 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 12:06:38 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 10:39:10 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by a322x1n
<snip> Usual bull shit, why repost disinformation? </snip>
Yes, it's a disinformation and lie rag site, no accurate
information or news.
Yes, he's a quack, if he even exists.
On the other hand, you have probably convinced some people
not to take a vaccine, which, in this day and age means
you've killed them. What do you do in your spare time,
mess with traffic signs?
Killed them?? Up to 99% of people recover from covid.
You don't need a vaccine, you need psychiatric treatment.
No, Fuckwit, you need a vaccine because while COVID has
killed
Post by Andrew W
Post by Ted
3%,
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
it's not a binary disease, where the options are recover or
die.
Post by Andrew W
Post by Ted
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
Survivors have been left with heart damage, amputations, lung
damage
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
so severe that they will require transplants, psychiatric
issues,
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
or
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
an illness that lingers for months.
That's the result of chemical weapons which US corporations
have
Post by Andrew W
Post by Ted
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
patents for
Post by Andrew W
and recently started using in different countries.
Covid is a combination of biological and chemical attack on
the
Post by Andrew W
Post by Ted
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
people to
Post by Andrew W
destroy economies and small and medium businesses to
implement a
Post by Andrew W
Post by Ted
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
global
Post by Andrew W
economy and government and make the people dependant on them.
Why? For maximum control over populations.
Why do you suspect it was planned? Just because of the effect
you mentioned?
The Rothschild, Rockefeller and other rich families, Bill Gates,
The Georgia
Post by Andrew W
Guidestones etc. have made it clear that they are desperate to
reduce the
Post by Andrew W
world population.
https://trueblog.net/the-bizarre-georgia-guidestones-and-population-co
n
Post by Andrew W
Post by Ted
trol-5711/
If they wanted to kill people, they could do better than this.
How? They see us as vermin or cattle.
But they haven't yet actively begun killing us.
What method do you think they'll choose?
How about a virus created in a partly US headed lab in China.
Not a very effective means of killing us. Most people who get it
live. Yes, they have a very real chance of having long lasting (maybe
life long) health issues. But they are alive.
Someone with an education might conclude that even if the bunk
about the virus being man made were real, it's not being used to kill
us.
--
KWills
Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor.
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All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/
Andrew W
2021-01-04 23:14:45 UTC
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Post by Andrew W
Post by Ted
On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 10:50:16 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by Ted
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 16:22:53 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by Andrew W
Post by Andrew W
That's the result of chemical weapons which US corporations
have
Post by Andrew W
Post by Ted
Post by Andrew W
Post by Andrew W
patents for
Post by Andrew W
and recently started using in different countries.
Covid is a combination of biological and chemical attack on
the
Post by Andrew W
Post by Ted
Post by Andrew W
Post by Andrew W
people to
Post by Andrew W
destroy economies and small and medium businesses to
implement a
Post by Andrew W
Post by Ted
Post by Andrew W
Post by Andrew W
global
Post by Andrew W
economy and government and make the people dependant on them.
Why? For maximum control over populations.
Why do you suspect it was planned? Just because of the effect
you mentioned?
The Rothschild, Rockefeller and other rich families, Bill Gates,
The Georgia
Post by Andrew W
Guidestones etc. have made it clear that they are desperate to
reduce the
Post by Andrew W
world population.
https://trueblog.net/the-bizarre-georgia-guidestones-and-population-co
n
Post by Andrew W
Post by Ted
trol-5711/
If they wanted to kill people, they could do better than this.
How? They see us as vermin or cattle.
But they haven't yet actively begun killing us.
What method do you think they'll choose?
How about a virus created in a partly US headed lab in China.
Not a very effective means of killing us.
Lol. That's only because the Elites and corporations failed. But the Elite
controlled mainstream media claims that thousands or millions are dying
every day. Wow! And fools like you believe them.
The world population meter keeps going up in a perfect straight line with
zero glitch in 2020. Check the graph yourself.
https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/
Scroll down to the graph and drag the tabs in to show only 2020.
Most people who get it
Post by KWills
live. Yes, they have a very real chance of having long lasting (maybe
life long) health issues. But they are alive.
Someone with an education might conclude that even if the bunk
about the virus being man made were real, it's not being used to kill
us.
You don't reach conclusions, you just gullibly believe everything the
mainstream media ballyhoos.
KWills
2021-01-05 09:32:17 UTC
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On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 11:28:00 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by Ted
On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 10:50:16 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by Ted
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 16:22:53 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by Andrew W
Post by Andrew W
That's the result of chemical weapons which US corporations
have
Post by Andrew W
Post by Ted
Post by Andrew W
Post by Andrew W
patents for
Post by Andrew W
and recently started using in different countries.
Covid is a combination of biological and chemical attack on
the
Post by Andrew W
Post by Ted
Post by Andrew W
Post by Andrew W
people to
Post by Andrew W
destroy economies and small and medium businesses to
implement a
Post by Andrew W
Post by Ted
Post by Andrew W
Post by Andrew W
global
Post by Andrew W
economy and government and make the people dependant on them.
Why? For maximum control over populations.
Why do you suspect it was planned? Just because of the effect
you mentioned?
The Rothschild, Rockefeller and other rich families, Bill Gates,
The Georgia
Post by Andrew W
Guidestones etc. have made it clear that they are desperate to
reduce the
Post by Andrew W
world population.
https://trueblog.net/the-bizarre-georgia-guidestones-and-population-co
n
Post by Andrew W
Post by Ted
trol-5711/
If they wanted to kill people, they could do better than this.
How? They see us as vermin or cattle.
But they haven't yet actively begun killing us.
What method do you think they'll choose?
How about a virus created in a partly US headed lab in China.
Not a very effective means of killing us.
Lol. That's only because the Elites and corporations failed. But the Elite
controlled mainstream media claims that thousands or millions are dying
every day. Wow! And fools like you believe them.
The world population meter keeps going up in a perfect straight line with
zero glitch in 2020. Check the graph yourself.
https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/
Scroll down to the graph and drag the tabs in to show only 2020.
And?
At what point has anyone claimed people don't die every day?
Post by Andrew W
Most people who get it
Post by KWills
live. Yes, they have a very real chance of having long lasting (maybe
life long) health issues. But they are alive.
Someone with an education might conclude that even if the bunk
about the virus being man made were real, it's not being used to kill
us.
You don't reach conclusions, you just gullibly believe everything the
mainstream media ballyhoos.
So no one is dying from the virus?
Clearly you think it's less effective than you originally
presented.
--
KWills
Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor.
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Andrew W
2021-01-05 10:39:47 UTC
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On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 11:28:00 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by Ted
On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 10:50:16 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by Ted
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 16:22:53 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by Andrew W
Post by Andrew W
That's the result of chemical weapons which US corporations
have
Post by Andrew W
Post by Ted
Post by Andrew W
Post by Andrew W
patents for
Post by Andrew W
and recently started using in different countries.
Covid is a combination of biological and chemical attack on
the
Post by Andrew W
Post by Ted
Post by Andrew W
Post by Andrew W
people to
Post by Andrew W
destroy economies and small and medium businesses to
implement a
Post by Andrew W
Post by Ted
Post by Andrew W
Post by Andrew W
global
Post by Andrew W
economy and government and make the people dependant on them.
Why? For maximum control over populations.
Why do you suspect it was planned? Just because of the effect
you mentioned?
The Rothschild, Rockefeller and other rich families, Bill Gates,
The Georgia
Post by Andrew W
Guidestones etc. have made it clear that they are desperate to
reduce the
Post by Andrew W
world population.
https://trueblog.net/the-bizarre-georgia-guidestones-and-population-co
n
Post by Andrew W
Post by Ted
trol-5711/
If they wanted to kill people, they could do better than this.
How? They see us as vermin or cattle.
But they haven't yet actively begun killing us.
What method do you think they'll choose?
How about a virus created in a partly US headed lab in China.
Not a very effective means of killing us.
Lol. That's only because the Elites and corporations failed. But the Elite
controlled mainstream media claims that thousands or millions are dying
every day. Wow! And fools like you believe them.
The world population meter keeps going up in a perfect straight line with
zero glitch in 2020. Check the graph yourself.
https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/
Scroll down to the graph and drag the tabs in to show only 2020.
And?
At what point has anyone claimed people don't die every day?
Post by Andrew W
Most people who get it
Post by KWills
live. Yes, they have a very real chance of having long lasting (maybe
life long) health issues. But they are alive.
Someone with an education might conclude that even if the bunk
about the virus being man made were real, it's not being used to kill
us.
You don't reach conclusions, you just gullibly believe everything the
mainstream media ballyhoos.
So no one is dying from the virus?
Clearly you think it's less effective than you originally
presented.
A certain number of people are dying from the virus but it's not making a
big dent in the population so the Elites have failed. They've been trying to
reduce the population for many years now. They're not happy.
KWills
2021-01-06 10:25:04 UTC
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Post by Andrew W
Post by KWills
On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 10:14:45 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by KWills
On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 11:28:00 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by Ted
On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 10:50:16 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by Ted
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 16:22:53 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by Andrew W
Post by Andrew W
That's the result of chemical weapons which US corporations
have
Post by Andrew W
Post by Ted
Post by Andrew W
Post by Andrew W
patents for
Post by Andrew W
and recently started using in different countries.
Covid is a combination of biological and chemical attack on
the
Post by Andrew W
Post by Ted
Post by Andrew W
Post by Andrew W
people to
Post by Andrew W
destroy economies and small and medium businesses to
implement a
Post by Andrew W
Post by Ted
Post by Andrew W
Post by Andrew W
global
Post by Andrew W
economy and government and make the people dependant on them.
Why? For maximum control over populations.
Why do you suspect it was planned? Just because of the effect
you mentioned?
The Rothschild, Rockefeller and other rich families, Bill Gates,
The Georgia
Post by Andrew W
Guidestones etc. have made it clear that they are desperate to
reduce the
Post by Andrew W
world population.
https://trueblog.net/the-bizarre-georgia-guidestones-and-population-co
n
Post by Andrew W
Post by Ted
trol-5711/
If they wanted to kill people, they could do better than this.
How? They see us as vermin or cattle.
But they haven't yet actively begun killing us.
What method do you think they'll choose?
How about a virus created in a partly US headed lab in China.
Not a very effective means of killing us.
Lol. That's only because the Elites and corporations failed. But the Elite
controlled mainstream media claims that thousands or millions are dying
every day. Wow! And fools like you believe them.
The world population meter keeps going up in a perfect straight line with
zero glitch in 2020. Check the graph yourself.
https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/
Scroll down to the graph and drag the tabs in to show only 2020.
And?
At what point has anyone claimed people don't die every day?
Post by Andrew W
Most people who get it
Post by KWills
live. Yes, they have a very real chance of having long lasting (maybe
life long) health issues. But they are alive.
Someone with an education might conclude that even if the bunk
about the virus being man made were real, it's not being used to kill
us.
You don't reach conclusions, you just gullibly believe everything the
mainstream media ballyhoos.
So no one is dying from the virus?
Clearly you think it's less effective than you originally
presented.
A certain number of people are dying from the virus but it's not making a
big dent in the population so the Elites have failed.
There is no evidence that the "Elites" ever tried.
Post by Andrew W
They've been trying to
reduce the population for many years now. They're not happy.
Odd that the keep failing, huh? An educated person might accept
the reality that they aren't trying, pretending they even exist.
--
KWills
Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor.
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Ted
2021-01-04 15:07:02 UTC
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Post by Andrew W
Post by Ted
But they haven't yet actively begun killing us.
What method do you think they'll choose?
How about a virus created in a partly US headed lab in China.
If they were gonna create a virus to kill people, they'd give it a
less than 99% survival rate.
Andrew W
2021-01-04 23:17:35 UTC
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On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 11:28:00 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by Ted
But they haven't yet actively begun killing us.
What method do you think they'll choose?
How about a virus created in a partly US headed lab in China.
If they were gonna create a virus to kill people, they'd give it a less
than 99% survival rate.
It's not as simple as that. Plus they failed because they didn't take
certain things into account. They made a major miscalculation and now
they're trying to gaslight everyone through the media.
Siri Cruise
2021-01-02 00:12:57 UTC
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If they wanted to kill people, they could do better than this.
Rational people know our species can continue with half the
current population. We did it before. Giving women control of
their own wombs stablises the population. We can gradually let it
reduce a bit.
--
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Andrew W
2021-01-02 00:20:08 UTC
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Post by Ted
If they wanted to kill people, they could do better than this.
Rational people know our species can continue with half the
current population. We did it before. Giving women control of
their own wombs stablises the population. We can gradually let it
reduce a bit.
Agreed. With the bad way we use resources our population is too high. But it
needs to be reduced with education and not by killing like Bill Gates and
other globalists are trying.
Bobbie Sellers
2021-01-02 04:17:24 UTC
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Post by Andrew W
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Ted
If they wanted to kill people, they could do better than this.
Rational people know our species can continue with half the
current population. We did it before. Giving women control of
their own wombs stablises the population. We can gradually let it
reduce a bit.
Agreed. With the bad way we use resources our population is too high.
But it needs to be reduced with education and not by killing like Bill
Gates and other globalists are trying.
Why are you whining about Bill Gates and how he used his
wealth? He is not behind Covid-19 as it makes all the good causes
which he is working on harder to achieve.

Now I am not a Gates lover. But the proper thing to complain
of is how he got that money,

You need to carefully withdraw your head from QAnon rectum
wash off your ideological face and have a look at the real world and
the real occupations which keep the rich content. They were very
happy with DJT and his foolish tax cuts for the rich.

bliss -“Nearly any fool can use a computer. Many do.” After all here I
am...
KWills
2021-01-02 08:47:52 UTC
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Post by M I Wakefield
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 12:06:38 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 10:39:10 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by a322x1n
<snip> Usual bull shit, why repost disinformation? </snip>
Yes, it's a disinformation and lie rag site, no accurate
information or news.
Yes, he's a quack, if he even exists.
On the other hand, you have probably convinced some people
not to take a vaccine, which, in this day and age means
you've killed them. What do you do in your spare time,
mess with traffic signs?
Killed them?? Up to 99% of people recover from covid.
You don't need a vaccine, you need psychiatric treatment.
No, Fuckwit, you need a vaccine because while COVID has killed 3%,
it's not a binary disease, where the options are recover or die.
Survivors have been left with heart damage, amputations, lung
damage
Post by Andrew W
Post by M I Wakefield
so severe that they will require transplants, psychiatric issues,
or an illness that lingers for months.
That's the result of chemical weapons which US corporations have
patents for and recently started using in different countries.
Covid is a combination of biological and chemical attack on the
people to
Post by Andrew W
destroy economies and small and medium businesses to implement a
global
Post by Andrew W
economy and government and make the people dependant on them. Why?
For maximum control over populations.
Why do you suspect it was planned? Just because of the effect you
mentioned?
The Rothschild, Rockefeller and other rich families, Bill Gates, The Georgia
Guidestones etc. have made it clear that they are desperate to reduce the
world population.
https://trueblog.net/the-bizarre-georgia-guidestones-and-population-control-5711/
The Guide Stones were put up during the Cold War when nuclear war
was an always serious threat. Had it happened, the earth's population
would have been decimated.
The educated people of the world, which you are compelled to
prove excused you, realize the stones were, and perhaps are, intended
to guide humans after a nuclear war.
I'd devote time to proving how you are so uneducated you don't
understand what the men you mention are actually doing, but I've
already proved you lack any education of note.
--
KWills
Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor.
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Bobbie Sellers
2021-01-01 03:39:39 UTC
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Post by M I Wakefield
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 10:39:10 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by a322x1n
<snip> Usual bull shit, why repost disinformation? </snip>
Yes, it's a disinformation and lie rag site, no accurate
information or news.
Yes, he's a quack, if he even exists.
On the other hand, you have probably convinced some people
not to take a vaccine, which, in this day and age means
you've killed them. What do you do in your spare time,
mess with traffic signs?
Killed them?? Up to 99% of people recover from covid.
You don't need a vaccine, you need psychiatric treatment.
No, Fuckwit, you need a vaccine because while COVID has killed 3%,
it's not a binary disease, where the options are recover or die.
Survivors have been left with heart damage, amputations, lung damage
so severe that they will require transplants, psychiatric issues, or
an illness that lingers for months.
That's the result of chemical weapons which US corporations have patents
for and recently started using in different countries.
Covid is a combination of biological and chemical attack on the people
to destroy economies and small and medium businesses to implement a
global economy and government and make the people dependant on them.
Why? For maximum control over populations.
The USA does not yet want to control populations or haven't
you read about Trump's appointment of right wind anti-abortion judges
to the SCOUSA. Covid is a Virus not a combination of biological and
chemical attacks. Is it living upside down in Oz that makes you
so ridiculously misinformed? Were you starved of protein when you
brain was growing or deprived of iodides so that you suffered brain
damage? Drink a lot to kill your brain cells off? Coke head? Or
more likely brain destroyed by methamphetamine over use.

No it is the result of a single ingenious virus which has not
learned to be a good guest in the host's immune system. Our vaccines
will help it learn and maybe we can find something else for our bodies
to to with the antibodies generated.

I just hate this FAKE NEWS generated by QAnon and other
Trump and Anarchic Chaos supporters.

bliss - I have an athletic nose, it runs in all weathers...
and even indoors.
Peter Pan
2021-01-01 11:17:38 UTC
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On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 10:39:10 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Killed them?? Up to 99% of people recover from covid.
That's simply a lie. The only question is whether Andrew
made it up, or if he's just parroting a kooksite.

The first source I came across found in-hospital
mortality of 16.9% in the study group. It would
presumably be lower among non-hospitalized victims.

<https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(20)30527-0/fulltext>
See Table 2.

Mortality varies by age. See Figure 1.

Of course, Lancet is a respected research publication by
real scientists, so they must be part of The Conspiracy.
Post by M I Wakefield
No, Fuckwit, you need a vaccine because while COVID has killed 3%,
it's not a binary disease, where the options are recover or die.
Survivors have been left with heart damage, amputations, lung damage
so severe that they will require transplants, psychiatric issues, or
an illness that lingers for months.
Well said.
Ted
2021-01-01 02:56:02 UTC
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Post by Andrew W
Post by a322x1n
<snip> Usual bull shit, why repost disinformation? </snip>
Yes, it's a disinformation and lie rag site, no accurate
information or news.
Yes, he's a quack, if he even exists.
On the other hand, you have probably convinced some people
not to take a vaccine, which, in this day and age means
you've killed them. What do you do in your spare time,
mess with traffic signs?
Killed them?? Up to 99% of people recover from covid.
You don't need a vaccine, you need psychiatric treatment.
It can be vicious and does kill some people.
a322x1n
2021-01-01 03:21:25 UTC
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Post by M I Wakefield
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 10:39:10 +1100, "Andrew W"
Post by Andrew W
Post by a322x1n
<snip> Usual bull shit, why repost disinformation? </snip>
Yes, it's a disinformation and lie rag site, no accurate
information or news.
Yes, he's a quack, if he even exists.
On the other hand, you have probably convinced some people
not to take a vaccine, which, in this day and age means
you've killed them. What do you do in your spare time,
mess with traffic signs?
Killed them?? Up to 99% of people recover from covid.
You don't need a vaccine, you need psychiatric treatment.
Says an idiot that can't tell the difference between truth and
disinformation.
Post by M I Wakefield
It can be vicious and does kill some people.
More than just some. In some areas, the funeral homes are _jammed_
with dead bodies. There are no hospital beds left.

3,100 are dying of COVID-19 everyday this week. In nine months
it's killed more Americans than died in WW-II and Vietnam,
combined.

If we don't get the needle to the public, it'll be well over
400,00 by the end of January. 1%? That's 3,100,000 dead
Americans, with no end in sight.

Add to that the new, fast moving strain of virus, and you've
got a real problem.

Someday Fancy Bear and Cozy Bear will bite your hand off. Enjoy.
Ted
2021-01-01 04:11:41 UTC
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Post by Ted
It can be vicious and does kill some people.
More than just some. In some areas, the funeral homes are _jammed_
with dead bodies. There are no hospital beds left.
3,100 are dying of COVID-19 everyday this week. In nine months
it's killed more Americans than died in WW-II and Vietnam,
combined.
If we don't get the needle to the public, it'll be well over
400,00 by the end of January. 1%? That's 3,100,000 dead
Americans, with no end in sight.
Add to that the new, fast moving strain of virus, and you've
got a real problem.
Someday Fancy Bear and Cozy Bear will bite your hand off. Enjoy.
The media knows but will never admit that true Christians are immune
to Covid, for the book of Revelation promises us protection from the
end time plagues, of which Covid is only the first. We need neither
masks nor vaccines, as God is our Protector.

But what about you? The Holy Spirit just revealed to me that Jesus is
knocking at the door to your heart, WTS. Will you let him in? Make
the right decision now, before it's too late. I'll pray for you.
Bobbie Sellers
2021-01-01 04:38:30 UTC
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news:almarsoft.8812660931070536897
Post by a322x1n
Post by Ted
It can be vicious and does kill some people.
More than just some. In some areas, the funeral homes are _jammed_
with dead bodies. There are no hospital beds left.
3,100 are dying of COVID-19 everyday this week. In nine months it's
killed more Americans than died in WW-II and Vietnam, combined.
3,800 the other day.
Post by Ted
Post by a322x1n
If we don't get the needle to the public, it'll be well over 400,00 by
the end of January. 1%? That's 3,100,000 dead Americans, with no end
in sight.
400,000 is only about a week away. We may hit a million
even with the vaccine.
Post by Ted
Post by a322x1n
Add to that the new, fast moving strain of virus, and you've got a
real problem.
Someday Fancy Bear and Cozy Bear will bite your hand off. Enjoy.
The media knows but will never admit that true Christians are immune
to
Covid, for the book of Revelation promises us protection from the end
time plagues, of which Covid is only the first. We need neither masks
nor vaccines, as God is our Protector.
You sound totally insane, Covid denying ministers have already died;
those surviving are hosting substantial numbers of covid carriers at
services. People who must attend crowded services will be dying in
droves. But Jesus, whom some call the Christ, said that where ever 2 or
3 believers gather there he will be. So nothing in Writ demands
attendance at services.

God is our Creator not our protector, The book of Revelation was
about a crisis in the Roman Empire and how the writer wanted it to come
down.
All the early Christian expected Apocalyse in their lifetimes
and when 1000 came up on the Gregorian calendar figured it was due then.
Again as 2000 approached many prophecies of doom issued from people who
thought that studying the so-called "Holy Bible" that mysteries would
be revealed. Everyone was wrong so far and I expect no better results
from the current crop of students of "Holy Scriptures" whoever wrote
them wrote as a human male would write not as a God that knew what
was going on in the reality we must live in.
Post by Ted
But what about you? The Holy Spirit just revealed to me that Jesus is
knocking at the door to your heart, WTS. Will you let him in? Make the
right decision now, before it's too late. I'll pray for you.
Praying for people does as much good as crowding into a
crowded church without a mask and the possibility of physically
distancing from other members of an enthusiastic congregation.

Wear a mask over nose and mouth, Wash your hands or use
a decent hand sanitizer, avoid indoor events of every sort and
stay distant from one another unless you live together.

Stay away from the QAnon cult and I mean do not listen
to them. They are crawling down a cult hole and will suffer from
that when those that can wake up do so.

bliss - I have an athletic nose, it runs in all weathers...
Ted
2021-01-01 22:21:27 UTC
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Post by Bobbie Sellers
Post by Ted
news:almarsoft.8812660931070536897
Post by a322x1n
Post by Ted
It can be vicious and does kill some people.
More than just some. In some areas, the funeral homes are
_jammed_
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Post by Ted
Post by a322x1n
with dead bodies. There are no hospital beds left.
3,100 are dying of COVID-19 everyday this week. In nine months it's
killed more Americans than died in WW-II and Vietnam, combined.
3,800 the other day.
Post by Ted
Post by a322x1n
If we don't get the needle to the public, it'll be well over 400,00 by
the end of January. 1%? That's 3,100,000 dead Americans, with no end
in sight.
400,000 is only about a week away. We may hit a million
even with the vaccine.
Post by Ted
Post by a322x1n
Add to that the new, fast moving strain of virus, and you've got a
real problem.
Someday Fancy Bear and Cozy Bear will bite your hand off.
Enjoy.
Post by Bobbie Sellers
Post by Ted
The media knows but will never admit that true Christians are immune
to
Covid, for the book of Revelation promises us protection from the end
time plagues, of which Covid is only the first. We need neither masks
nor vaccines, as God is our Protector.
You sound totally insane, Covid denying ministers have already died;
those surviving are hosting substantial numbers of covid carriers at
services. People who must attend crowded services will be dying in
droves. But Jesus, whom some call the Christ, said that where ever 2 or
3 believers gather there he will be. So nothing in Writ demands
attendance at services.
God is our Creator not our protector, The book of Revelation was
about a crisis in the Roman Empire and how the writer wanted it to come
down.
All the early Christian expected Apocalyse in their lifetimes
and when 1000 came up on the Gregorian calendar figured it was due then.
Again as 2000 approached many prophecies of doom issued from people who
thought that studying the so-called "Holy Bible" that mysteries would
be revealed. Everyone was wrong so far and I expect no better
results
Post by Bobbie Sellers
them wrote as a human male would write not as a God that knew what
was going on in the reality we must live in.
Post by Ted
But what about you? The Holy Spirit just revealed to me that Jesus is
knocking at the door to your heart, WTS. Will you let him in? Make the
right decision now, before it's too late. I'll pray for you.
Praying for people does as much good as crowding into a
crowded church without a mask and the possibility of physically
distancing from other members of an enthusiastic congregation.
Wear a mask over nose and mouth, Wash your hands or use
a decent hand sanitizer, avoid indoor events of every sort and
stay distant from one another unless you live together.
Stay away from the QAnon cult and I mean do not listen
to them. They are crawling down a cult hole and will suffer from
that when those that can wake up do so.
bliss - I have an athletic nose, it runs in all weathers...
How many QAnon are there? Has Q himself said anything lately?
M I Wakefield
2021-01-01 22:35:30 UTC
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How many QAnon are there? Has Q himself said anything lately?
Q has been silent since one of the admin's left 8kun after Biden won
the election, and some of the true believers are becoming just a
little concerned that they've been had.
Ted
2021-01-01 23:20:44 UTC
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Post by Ted
How many QAnon are there? Has Q himself said anything lately?
Q has been silent since one of the admin's left 8kun after Biden won
the election, and some of the true believers are becoming just a
little concerned that they've been had.
LOL. They're just now figuring it out, huh. Thank you, MI. I expected
Q to disappear after Trump's election loss.
KWills
2021-01-02 08:49:20 UTC
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Post by Ted
How many QAnon are there? Has Q himself said anything lately?
Q has been silent since one of the admin's left 8kun after Biden won
the election, and some of the true believers are becoming just a
little concerned that they've been had.
Kind of sad that it took them so long to start to realize the
truth.
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KWills
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counselor.
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KWills
2021-01-02 08:49:00 UTC
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Post by Ted
It can be vicious and does kill some people.
More than just some. In some areas, the funeral homes are _jammed_
with dead bodies. There are no hospital beds left.
3,100 are dying of COVID-19 everyday this week. In nine months
it's killed more Americans than died in WW-II and Vietnam,
combined.
If we don't get the needle to the public, it'll be well over
400,00 by the end of January. 1%? That's 3,100,000 dead
Americans, with no end in sight.
Add to that the new, fast moving strain of virus, and you've
got a real problem.
Someday Fancy Bear and Cozy Bear will bite your hand off. Enjoy.
The media knows but will never admit that true Christians are immune
to Covid, for the book of Revelation promises us protection from the
end time plagues, of which Covid is only the first. We need neither
masks nor vaccines, as God is our Protector.
I wouldn't put my health and life in the hands of a fictional
entity.
Post by Ted
But what about you? The Holy Spirit just revealed to me that Jesus is
knocking at the door to your heart, WTS. Will you let him in? Make
the right decision now, before it's too late. I'll pray for you.
I don't know about anyone else, but I have the Flying Spaghetti
Monster to protect me.
Can I get a R'amen?
--
KWills
Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor.
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Ted
2021-01-02 12:53:24 UTC
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Post by Ted
It can be vicious and does kill some people.
More than just some. In some areas, the funeral homes are
_jammed_
Post by KWills
Post by Ted
Post by a322x1n
with dead bodies. There are no hospital beds left.
3,100 are dying of COVID-19 everyday this week. In nine months
it's killed more Americans than died in WW-II and Vietnam,
combined.
If we don't get the needle to the public, it'll be well over
400,00 by the end of January. 1%? That's 3,100,000 dead
Americans, with no end in sight.
Add to that the new, fast moving strain of virus, and you've
got a real problem.
Someday Fancy Bear and Cozy Bear will bite your hand off. Enjoy.
The media knows but will never admit that true Christians are
immune
Post by KWills
Post by Ted
to Covid, for the book of Revelation promises us protection from the
end time plagues, of which Covid is only the first. We need
neither
Post by KWills
Post by Ted
masks nor vaccines, as God is our Protector.
I wouldn't put my health and life in the hands of a fictional
entity.
Post by Ted
But what about you? The Holy Spirit just revealed to me that Jesus is
knocking at the door to your heart, WTS. Will you let him in? Make
the right decision now, before it's too late. I'll pray for you.
I don't know about anyone else, but I have the Flying Spaghetti
Monster to protect me.
Can I get a R'amen?
Hell yes. Ramen, Brother KWills. Since I wrote the above, I've
converted to Pastafarian. We have solid proof of the FSM.
KWills
2021-01-02 15:13:05 UTC
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Post by Ted
It can be vicious and does kill some people.
More than just some. In some areas, the funeral homes are
_jammed_
Post by KWills
Post by Ted
Post by a322x1n
with dead bodies. There are no hospital beds left.
3,100 are dying of COVID-19 everyday this week. In nine months
it's killed more Americans than died in WW-II and Vietnam,
combined.
If we don't get the needle to the public, it'll be well over
400,00 by the end of January. 1%? That's 3,100,000 dead
Americans, with no end in sight.
Add to that the new, fast moving strain of virus, and you've
got a real problem.
Someday Fancy Bear and Cozy Bear will bite your hand off. Enjoy.
The media knows but will never admit that true Christians are
immune
Post by KWills
Post by Ted
to Covid, for the book of Revelation promises us protection from
the
Post by KWills
Post by Ted
end time plagues, of which Covid is only the first. We need
neither
Post by KWills
Post by Ted
masks nor vaccines, as God is our Protector.
I wouldn't put my health and life in the hands of a fictional
entity.
Post by Ted
But what about you? The Holy Spirit just revealed to me that Jesus
is
Post by KWills
Post by Ted
knocking at the door to your heart, WTS. Will you let him in? Make
the right decision now, before it's too late. I'll pray for you.
I don't know about anyone else, but I have the Flying Spaghetti
Monster to protect me.
Can I get a R'amen?
Hell yes. Ramen, Brother KWills. Since I wrote the above, I've
converted to Pastafarian. We have solid proof of the FSM.
STFU Alice you cross dressing pillow biter.
--
KWills
Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator
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%
2021-01-02 16:10:31 UTC
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Post by Ted
It can be vicious and does kill some people.
More than just some. In some areas, the funeral homes are
_jammed_
Post by KWills
Post by Ted
Post by a322x1n
with dead bodies. There are no hospital beds left.
3,100 are dying of COVID-19 everyday this week. In nine months
it's killed more Americans than died in WW-II and Vietnam,
combined.
If we don't get the needle to the public, it'll be well over
400,00 by the end of January. 1%? That's 3,100,000 dead
Americans, with no end in sight.
Add to that the new, fast moving strain of virus, and you've
got a real problem.
Someday Fancy Bear and Cozy Bear will bite your hand off. Enjoy.
The media knows but will never admit that true Christians are
immune
Post by KWills
Post by Ted
to Covid, for the book of Revelation promises us protection from
the
Post by KWills
Post by Ted
end time plagues, of which Covid is only the first. We need
neither
Post by KWills
Post by Ted
masks nor vaccines, as God is our Protector.
I wouldn't put my health and life in the hands of a fictional
entity.
Post by Ted
But what about you? The Holy Spirit just revealed to me that Jesus
is
Post by KWills
Post by Ted
knocking at the door to your heart, WTS. Will you let him in? Make
the right decision now, before it's too late. I'll pray for you.
I don't know about anyone else, but I have the Flying Spaghetti
Monster to protect me.
Can I get a R'amen?
Hell yes. Ramen, Brother KWills. Since I wrote the above, I've
converted to Pastafarian. We have solid proof of the FSM.
STFU Alice you cross dressing pillow biter.
lol you tell the he-she faggot, kent
Justin Tyme
2021-01-02 17:48:25 UTC
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Post by a322x1n
Post by Ted
It can be vicious and does kill some people.
More than just some. In some areas, the funeral homes are
_jammed_
Post by KWills
Post by Ted
Post by a322x1n
with dead bodies. There are no hospital beds left.
3,100 are dying of COVID-19 everyday this week. In nine months
it's killed more Americans than died in WW-II and Vietnam,
combined.
If we don't get the needle to the public, it'll be well over
400,00 by the end of January. 1%? That's 3,100,000 dead
Americans, with no end in sight.
Add to that the new, fast moving strain of virus, and you've
got a real problem.
Someday Fancy Bear and Cozy Bear will bite your hand off. Enjoy.
The media knows but will never admit that true Christians are
immune
Post by KWills
Post by Ted
to Covid, for the book of Revelation promises us protection from
the
Post by KWills
Post by Ted
end time plagues, of which Covid is only the first. We need
neither
Post by KWills
Post by Ted
masks nor vaccines, as God is our Protector.
I wouldn't put my health and life in the hands of a fictional
entity.
Post by Ted
But what about you? The Holy Spirit just revealed to me that Jesus
is
Post by KWills
Post by Ted
knocking at the door to your heart, WTS. Will you let him in? Make
the right decision now, before it's too late. I'll pray for you.
I don't know about anyone else, but I have the Flying Spaghetti
Monster to protect me.
Can I get a R'amen?
Hell yes. Ramen, Brother KWills. Since I wrote the above, I've
converted to Pastafarian. We have solid proof of the FSM.
STFU Alice you cross dressing pillow biter.
lol you tell the he-she faggot, kent
lol
KWills
2021-01-02 18:13:57 UTC
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Post by KWills
Post by Steve Austin
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Post by Ted
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Post by a322x1n
Post by Ted
It can be vicious and does kill some people.
More than just some. In some areas, the funeral homes are
_jammed_ with dead bodies. There are no hospital beds left.
3,100 are dying of COVID-19 everyday this week. In nine months
it's killed more Americans than died in WW-II and Vietnam,
combined.
If we don't get the needle to the public, it'll be well over
400,00 by the end of January. 1%? That's 3,100,000 dead
Americans, with no end in sight.
Add to that the new, fast moving strain of virus, and you've
got a real problem.
Someday Fancy Bear and Cozy Bear will bite your hand off. Enjoy.
The media knows but will never admit that true Christians are
immune
Post by KWills
Post by Ted
to Covid, for the book of Revelation promises us protection from
the
Post by KWills
Post by Ted
end time plagues, of which Covid is only the first. We need
neither masks nor vaccines, as God is our Protector.
I wouldn't put my health and life in the hands of a fictional
entity.
Post by Ted
But what about you? The Holy Spirit just revealed to me that Jesus
is
Post by KWills
Post by Ted
knocking at the door to your heart, WTS. Will you let him in? Make
the right decision now, before it's too late. I'll pray for you.
I don't know about anyone else, but I have the Flying Spaghetti
Monster to protect me.
Can I get a R'amen?
Hell yes. Ramen, Brother KWills. Since I wrote the above, I've
converted to Pastafarian. We have solid proof of the FSM.
STFU Alice you cross dressing pillow biter.
lol you tell the he-she faggot, kent
lol
You find % presenting more PROOF that it is not only OBSESSED
with me, is desperately wants to actually BE me funny?
Don't you think it odd that it thinks I am your ex-boyfriend,
Kent? Think about that and wonder.
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Justin's Tweet about his ex:
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Justin admits he only uses avoidance in
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What
does that make you: Faker, faker...belly-acher!
Your superior. But you already knew that.
True dat. Justin

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"fernie is the real life Herbert.

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"No one is weaker than someone who would fall for Ernie's BS."
Justin's comment about Ernie's "cure."
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He tied to cover it up here:
http://alt.baldspot.narkive.com/OYC2p0dg/big-announcement#post24

Justin freely and openly admits he is a felon in Message-ID:
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KWills
2021-01-02 16:43:50 UTC
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Post by Ted
It can be vicious and does kill some people.
More than just some. In some areas, the funeral homes are
_jammed_ with dead bodies. There are no hospital beds left.
3,100 are dying of COVID-19 everyday this week. In nine months
it's killed more Americans than died in WW-II and Vietnam,
combined.
If we don't get the needle to the public, it'll be well over
400,00 by the end of January. 1%? That's 3,100,000 dead
Americans, with no end in sight.
Add to that the new, fast moving strain of virus, and you've
got a real problem.
Someday Fancy Bear and Cozy Bear will bite your hand off. Enjoy.
The media knows but will never admit that true Christians are
immune
Post by KWills
Post by Ted
to Covid, for the book of Revelation promises us protection from
the
Post by KWills
Post by Ted
end time plagues, of which Covid is only the first. We need
neither
Post by KWills
Post by Ted
masks nor vaccines, as God is our Protector.
I wouldn't put my health and life in the hands of a fictional
entity.
Post by Ted
But what about you? The Holy Spirit just revealed to me that Jesus
is
Post by KWills
Post by Ted
knocking at the door to your heart, WTS. Will you let him in? Make
the right decision now, before it's too late. I'll pray for you.
I don't know about anyone else, but I have the Flying Spaghetti
Monster to protect me.
Can I get a R'amen?
Hell yes. Ramen, Brother KWills. Since I wrote the above, I've
converted to Pastafarian. We have solid proof of the FSM.
STFU Alice you cross dressing pillow biter.
I wonder what sad, pathetic, Canadian LOSER is so OBSESSED with
me, and wishes to actually BE me, so much he is compelled to post as
me?
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Bobbie Sellers
2021-01-01 05:44:18 UTC
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<snip> Usual bull shit, why repost disinformation? </snip>
Yes, it's a disinformation and lie rag site, no accurate
information or news.
Yes, he's a quack, if he even exists.
On the other hand, you have probably convinced some people
not to take a vaccine, which, in this day and age means
you've killed them. What do you do in your spare time,
mess with traffic signs?
Killed them?? Up to 99% of people recover from covid.
You don't need a vaccine, you need psychiatric treatment.
Well I hope no one forces a vaccination on you because
shunning would be much more appropriate.
1% of 334,000,000 million people will die under your
laissez faire. program. Funeral homes cannot hanle that many
deaths. In southern California funeral homes are over capacity
and morgues are full with refrigerator trucks being used to
handle the overflow. That is just in the USA and this is
a world-wide epidemic a Pandemic and 1% of 8,000,000,000
is a nations worth of people. 80,000,000 people, and the
the population of the ignorant will still rise as the
whole world is stressed.

That was the situation in New York City a few months
back and the situation there is heating up again as well.
I have a sick friend (not close) whom I hope will
survive Covid-19.

Personally I think you need psychiatric treatment for
your sociopathic discounting of human lives. It may not have
been developed yet so I would be happy to see you behind
bars if the occasion arises. To which I would adduce these
emails in which you are so callous are archieved and will
be traced back to you, little dupe of QAnon and American
Fascists.


bliss-“Nearly any fool can use a computer. Many do.” After all here I am...
KWills
2021-01-01 16:26:37 UTC
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Post by a322x1n
<snip> Usual bull shit, why repost disinformation? </snip>
Yes, it's a disinformation and lie rag site, no accurate
information or news.
Yes, he's a quack, if he even exists.
On the other hand, you have probably convinced some people
not to take a vaccine, which, in this day and age means
you've killed them. What do you do in your spare time,
mess with traffic signs?
Killed them??
Quite probably.
Post by Andrew W
Up to 99% of people recover from covid.
Up to mean no more than. It can be from 1% to 99%. But no more
than 99%.
Further, Covid isn't just a live or die disease. There are long
term health effects for a good number of people who get it.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-long-term-effects/art-20490351#:~:text=The%20most%20common%20signs%20and,%2C%20concentration%20or%20sleep%20problems

If you have an old system that causes the URL to wrap, this will
get you to the same page:

http://gg.gg/novck

That's a cite. A credible, valid cite. Something you can NEVER
offer.
Post by Andrew W
You don't need a vaccine, you need psychiatric treatment.
Are you really so uneducated you think viruses are the result of
mental health problems? Really?
No need to answer. You are.
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Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
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Cornelius Crane
2021-01-01 14:40:38 UTC
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<snip> Usual bull shit, why repost disinformation? </snip>
Yes, it's a disinformation and lie rag site, no accurate
information or news.
Yes, he's a quack, if he even exists.
On the other hand, you have probably convinced some people
not to take a vaccine, which, in this day and age means
you've killed them. What do you do in your spare time,
mess with traffic signs?
If Doctors and medical science wasn't against us, why do almost 1 million
people die in hospitals every year?


The sane thing to do is to avoid doctors, medical science and hospitals to
stay alive.


Or get a personal doctor like Michael Jackson did. That worked out well.
Justin Tyme
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The research is hard to ignore, vaccines can trigger autoimmunity with a
laundry list of diseases to follow. With harmful and toxic metals as
some vaccine ingredients, who is susceptible and which individuals are
more at risk?
No one would accuse Yehuda Shoenfeld of being a quack. The Israeli
clinician has spent more than three decades studying the human immune
system and is at the pinnacle of his profession. You might say he is
more foundation than fringe in his specialty; he wrote the textbooks.
The Mosaic of Autoimmunity, Autoantibodies, Diagnostic Criteria in
Autoimmune Diseases, Infection and Autoimmunity, Cancer and Autoimmunity
– the list is 25 titles long and some of them are cornerstones of
clinical practice. Hardly surprising that Shoenfeld has been called the
"Godfather of Autoimmunology" – the study of the immune system turned on
itself in a wide array of diseases from type 1 diabetes to ulcerative
colitis and multiple sclerosis.
But something strange is happening in the world of immunology lately and
a small evidence of it is that the Godfather of Autoimmunology is
pointing to vaccines – specifically, some of their ingredients including
the toxic metal aluminum – as a significant contributor to the growing
global epidemic of autoimmune diseases. The bigger evidence is a huge
body of research that's poured in in the past 15 years, and particularly
in the past five years. Take for example, a recent article published in
the journal Pharmacological Research in which Shoenfeld and colleagues
issue unprecedented guidelines naming four categories of people who are
most at risk for vaccine-induced autoimmunity.
"On one hand," vaccines prevent infections which can trigger
autoimmunity, say the paper's authors, Alessandra Soriano, of the
Department of Clinical Medicine and Rheumatology at the Campus
Bio-Medico University in Rome, Gideon Nesher, of the Hebrew University
Medical School in Jerusalem and Shoenfeld, founder and head of the
Zabludowicz Center of Autoimmune Diseases in the Sheba Medical Center at
Tel Hashomer. He is also editor of three medical journals and author of
more than 1,500 research papers across the spectrum of medical
journalism and founder of the International Congress on Autoimmunology.
"On the other hand, many reports that describe post-vaccination
autoimmunity strongly suggest that vaccines can indeed trigger
autoimmunity. Defined autoimmune diseases that may occur following
vaccinations include arthritis, lupus (systemic lupus erythematosus,
SLE) diabetes mellitus, thrombocytopenia, vasculitis,
dermatomyosiositis, Guillain-Barre syndrome and demyelinating disorders.
Almost all types of vaccines have been reported to be associated with
the onset of ASIA."
ASIA – or Autoimmune/inflammatory Syndrome Induced by Adjuvants (also
known as Shoenfeld's syndrome) -- first appeared in the Journal of
Autoimmunology four years ago. It is an umbrella term for a collection
of similar symptoms, including Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, that result
after exposure to an adjuvant – an environmental agent including common
vaccine ingredients that stimulate the immune system. Since then an
enormous body of research, using ASIA as a paradigm, has begun to
unravel the mystery of how environmental toxins, particularly the metal
aluminum used in vaccines, can trigger an immune system chain reaction
in susceptible individuals and may lead to overt autoimmune disease.
Autoimmune disease results when the body's system meant to attack
foreign invaders turns instead to attack part of the body it belongs to
(auto is Greek for self). If the immune system is like a national
defence system, antibodies are like drones programmed to recognize a
certain type of invader (a bacteria say) and to destroy them or mark
them for destruction by other special forces. Autoantibodies are like
drones that are misidentifying a component of the human body and have
launched a sustained attack on it. If they mistakenly target a component
of the conductive sheath around neurons, for example, nerve impulses
stop conducting properly, muscles go into spasm and coordination fails;
multiple sclerosis results. If autoantibodies erroneously focus on joint
tissue; rheumatoid arthritis results. If they target the islets of
Langerhans in the pancreas, Type 1 diabetes, and so on
"Throughout our lifetime the normal immune system walks a fine line
between preserving normal immune reactions and developing autoimmune
diseases," says the paper. "The healthy immune system is tolerant to
self-antigens. When self-tolerance is disturbed, dysregulation of the
immune system follows, resulting in emergence of an autoimmune disease.
Vaccination is one of the conditions that may disturb this homeostasis
in susceptible individuals, resulting in autoimmune phenomena and ASIA."
Who is "susceptible" is the subject of the paper entitled, "Predicting
post-vaccination autoimmunity: Who might be at risk?" It lists four
categories of people: 1) those who have had a previous autoimmune
reaction to a vaccine, 2) anyone with a medical history of autoimmunity,
3) patients with a history of allergic reactions, 4) anyone at high risk
of developing autoimmune disease including anyone with a family history
of autoimmunity, presence of autoantibodies which are detectable by
blood tests and other factors including low vitamin D and smoking.
PREVIOUS REACTION
Regarding those who have had a previous adverse reaction to vaccines,
the paper cites five relevant studies including the case of a death of a
teenage girl six months following her third Gardasil injection against
HPV virus. She had experienced a range of symptoms shortly after her
first dose, including dizziness, numbness and tingling in her hands, and
memory lapses. After her second injection, she developed "intermittent
arm weakness, frequent tiredness requiring daytime naps," worse
tingling, night sweats, chest pain and palpitations. A full autopsy was
unrevealing but blood and spleen tissue analysis revealed HPV-16 L1 gene
DNA fragments – matching the DNA found in vials of the Gardasil vaccine
against cervical cancer – "thus implicating the vaccine as a causal
factor." The DNA fragments had also been found to be "complexed with the
aluminum adjuvant" which, according to the report, have been shown to
persist for up to 8 to 10 years causing chronic immune system stimulation.
"Although data is limited," Shoenfeld and his colleagues concluded, "it
seems preferable that individuals with prior autoimmune or
autoimmune-like reactions to vaccinations, should not be immunized, at
least not with the same type of vaccine."
ESTABLISHED AUTOIMMUNE CONDITION
The second group which the paper cites for vaccine exemption is patients
with "established autoimmune conditions." Vaccines don't work so well in
them, say Shoenfeld and his colleagues, and they are at "risk for flares
following vaccination." Inoculations that contain live viruses including
chickenpox, yellow fever and the measles, mumps and rubella triple
vaccine (MMR) are "generally contraindicated" for people with autoimmune
conditions because of  the risk of "uncontrolled viral replication." But
inactivated vaccines are not such a good idea either because they
usually contain the added ingredient aluminum, linked to autoimmunity.
The immunologists describe recent studies in which patients with
autoimmune rheumatic disease given the influenza vaccine (without
aluminum) suffered more joint pain and fever than controls and whose
levels of autoantibodies (the drones that attack self)  increased after
receiving the flu vaccine. What's more, they developed new types of
autoantibodies that weren't present before the vaccines, and those
persisted. As the presence of autoantibodies can be predictive of
developing autoimmune disease in patients without symptoms, even years
ahead of disease onset, this is troubling to those who understand
immunology.
A number of studies claim vaccines are safe for the "overwhelming
majority of patients with established autoimmune diseases," the study
allows, but they only looked at rheumatoid arthritis and lupus and not
at severe and active cases so "the potential benefit of vaccination
should be weighed against its potential risk," they cautioned.
PATIENTS WITH A HISTORY OF ALLERGY
Vaccine trials have usually excluded "vulnerable" individuals -- only
extremely healthy individuals with no allergies are recruited. It's a
"selection bias," say Soriano and Shoenfeld, and has likely resulted in
serious adverse events being "considerably underestimated" in "real life
where vaccines are mandated to all individuals regardless of their
susceptibility." The true incidence of allergic reactions to vaccines,
normally estimated at between one in 50,000 to one in a million doses,
is probably much higher and particularly where gelatin or egg proteins
are on the ingredients list, they say.
besides the infectious agents themselves, there are those from hen's
egg, horse serum, baker's yeast, numerous antibiotics, formaldehyde and
lactose, as well "inadvertent" ingredients such as latex. People's
allergic histories have to be taken before vaccination say the
researchers. But some signs of reaction don't show up until after the shot.
The public health nurse or GP might tell patients that a long-lasting
swelling around the injection site after a vaccine is a normal reaction,
for example. But that is not what the immunologists say. "[A]luminum
sensitization manifests as nodules [hard lumps] at the injection site
that often regress after weeks or months, but may persist for years." In
such cases, they say, a patch test can be done to confirm sensitivity
and to avoid vaccination.
According to a growing body of research, though, allergy may be only the
beginning of many dangerous aluminum-induced phenomena.
THE TROUBLE WITH ALUMINUM
Aluminum has been added to vaccines since about 1926 when Alexander
Glenny and colleagues noticed it would produce better antibody responses
in vaccines than the antigen alone. Glenny figured the alum was inducing
what he called a "depot effect" – slowing the release of the antigen and
heightening the immune response. For 60 years his theory was accepted
dogma. And over the same time, the vaccine schedule grew decade on
decade, but few ever questioned the effects of injecting aluminum into
the body, which is strange considering its known toxicity.
A PubMed search on aluminum and "toxicity" turns up 4,258 entries. Its
neurotoxicity is well documented. It affects memory, cognition,
psychomotor control; it damages the blood brain barrier, activates brain
inflammation, depresses mitochondrial function and plenty of research
suggests it is a key player in the formation of the amyloid "plaques"
and tangles in the brains of Alzheimer's patients. It's been implicated
in Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis and autism and demonstrated to induce
allergy.
When kidney dialysis patients were accidentally infused with aluminum,
the "dialysis-induced encephalopathy" (DAE) they developed neurological
symptoms: speech abnormalities, tremors, memory loss, impaired
concentration and behavioural changes. Many of the patients eventually
went into comas and died. The lucky ones survived: when the source of
toxicity, aluminum, was removed from their dialysis they recovered rapidly.
With these new observations, researchers began investigating the
adjuvant effects of aluminum and in the past decade there has been a
flurry of research. Far from being a sandbag that holds the antigen for
a while and then gets excreted, it turns out that aluminum salts trigger
a storm of defence action. Within hours of injection of the same
aluminum oxyhydroxide in vaccines into mice, for example, armies of
specialized immune cells are on the move, calling in grid coordinates
for more specialist assault forces. Within a day, a whole host of immune
system commandos are in play -- neutrophils, eosinophils, inflammatory
monocytes, myeloid and dendritic cells, activating lymphocytes and
secreting proteins called cytokines. The cytokines themselves cause
collateral damage but they send out signals, directing cell-to-cell
communication and recruiting other cells into action. If the next phase
of the attack is launched: fibroblast growth factor, interferons,
interleukins, platelet derived growth factor, transforming growth factor
and tumour necrosis factor might all be engaged. There's evidence that
poorly understood and pesky inflammasomes, (currently a topic of
cutting- edge cancer causation research) such as the Nod-like receptor
3( NLRP) are activated too, but it's all still too early to say exactly
what they're doing.
New research emerging from University of British Columbia has found that
aluminum adjuvant injected into mice can alter the expression of genes
associated with autoimmunity. And in their recent study published in the
Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, immunologists at the
University of Colorado found that even host DNA is recruited into the
aluminum assault, that it rapidly coats injected alum, triggering
effects that scientists have barely scratched the surface of understanding.
THE SIGNIFICANCE OF MACROPHAGIC MYOFASCIITIS
This mobility or "translocation" of aluminum in the body is perhaps the
most disturbing of the mounting evidence in current aluminum research.
In 1998, French researcher Romain Gherardi and his colleagues observed
an emerging condition of unknown origin which presented in patients
post-vaccination with Chronic Fatigue like symptoms including swollen
lymph nodes, joint and muscle pain and exhaustion. Tissue biopsies of
the patients' deltoid revealed lesions up to 1 cm in diameter and unique
from similar lesions of other diseases. They went to the lab for
analysis and to Gherardi's astonishment, they mainly consisted of
macrophages – large white blood cells in the immune system whose job is
to swallow up foreign invaders in the body. Enclosed in the cellular
fluid of these phagocytes were agglomerates of nanocrystals of aluminum.
Gherardi and his colleagues began injecting mice with aluminum to see
what happened. Their research published in 2013 revealed that the metal
particles were engulfed by macrophages and formed MMF-like granulomas
that dispersed -- to distant lymph nodes, spleen, liver and eventually
brain.
"This strongly suggests that long-term adjuvant biopersistence within
phagocytic cells is a prerequisite of slow brain translocation and
delayed neurotoxicity," writes Gherardi in his February 2015 review of
the relevant research in Frontiers in Neurology.
A more frightening animal study of aluminum is that of Spanish
veterinary researcher Lluis Lujan's study of ovine ASIA. After huge
numbers of sheep in Spain died in 2008 in the wake of a compulsory
multiple vaccine campaign against bluetongue in Spain in 2008, Lujan set
out to find out what killed them – and he began by inoculating them with
aluminum.
His 2013 study found that only 0.5% of sheep inoculated with aluminum
vaccines showed immediate reactions of lethargy, transient blindness,
stupor, prostration and seizures – "characterized by a severe
meningoencephalitis, similar to postvaccine reactions seen in humans."
Most of them recovered, temporarily, but postmortem exams of the ones
who didn't revealed acute brain inflammation.
The delayed onset "chronic" phase of the disease affected far more of
the sheep -- 50-70% of flocks and sometimes virtually 100% of animals
within a given flock, usually including all of those who had previously
recovered. The reaction was frequently triggered by exposure to cold and
began with restlessness and compulsive wool-biting, then progressed to
acute redness of the skin, generalized weakness, extreme weight loss and
muscle tremors, and finally, entered the terminal phase where the
animals went down on their front quarters, became comatose and died.
Post-mortem examinations revealed "severe neuron necrosis" and aluminum
in the nerve tissue.
The immune system's reaction to aluminum "represents a major health
challenge," Gerhardi declares in his recent review, and he adds that
"attempts to seriously examine safety concerns raised by the
bio-persistent character and brain accumulation of alum particles have
not been made... A lot must be done to understand how, in certain
individuals, alum-containing vaccines may become insidiously unsafe."
Back to the problem of which "certain individuals" should avoid
vaccination to avoid autoimmune disease.
That proves it! Justin
Malcolm McMahon
2021-01-02 14:30:09 UTC
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It's a theoretical risk, much discussed during the early days of Covid vaccine
development. I believe there was such a problem with one of the candidate Ebola
vaccines. That means is was something watched for during trials, but not found.
Siri Cruise
2021-01-02 16:33:03 UTC
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It's a theoretical risk, much discussed during the early days of Covid vaccine
development. I believe there was such a problem with one of the candidate Ebola
vaccines. That means is was something watched for during trials, but not found.
You don't need a vaccine to get an autoimmune disorder. The
immune system operates without intelligence and sometimes does
boneheaded responses. It has evolved to do the correct response
far more often, but not invariably.
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