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How else did a gay get rights other than to prove they're as real as heterosexuals>>>"Court orders restoration of DACA program"
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#BeamMeUpScotty
2018-02-24 00:34:54 UTC
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On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 11:19:45 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 07:43:30 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
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The constitutionally protected rights of life and liberty apply
only to
persons, not to a fetus.  Thus, both the life and liberty of the woman
take precedent over both the life and liberty of the fetus.
Hmm, where does it say that?
The 14th Amendment says "nor shall any state deprive any person of life,
liberty, or property, without due process of law."  SCOTUS held that the
fetus is not a person in Roe.
So it does NOT say a "fetus" is not a person.  Got it.  Nor does it
say the life and liberty of one takes precedence over another.  Heck
it doesn't even mention a "right to privacy" You are relying on the
Court created law to justify your position.
It says that the Constitutionally-protected rights of life and liberty
apply only to persons.  The determination of whether a fetus is a
person, one way or the other, is a necessary first step before applying
the 14th Amendment.
Are Gays persons...? Separate from Heterosexual persons?

A gay is a new type of person? How else did a gay get rights other than
to prove they're as real as heterosexuals, and that would take some kind
of a test, but I haven't heard of that being given to any gays yet?

If the Supreme court requires proof that some human life is different
from a typical man or woman "a typical person" that is walking among
us..... is real then, why NOT demand that gays also prove they are a
person. Otherwise they're just a mentally ill heterosexual. And they
have all the same rights as a mentally stable heterosexual.

That's why they require a fetus to prove they're a person right, because
they aren't visibly a person in court, but a gay isn't visibly a gay in
court, they can be straight one day and gay the next and back to a
heterosexual the day after that.

The problem is the court assigned rights to "gays" with no proof that
they are any more real than a mentally ill heterosexual or a "fetus".
And a mentally ill heterosexual has the same rights as any heterosexual
that isn't mentally ill don't they? So a "gay" can't have any rights to
gay marriage if no gays can prove they are "gay persons" just as a fetus
can't have any rights to life if they can't prove they are a
"handicapped person" or black person or gay person or female person or
some other type like a heterosexual person. Because once the fetus is
proven to have one of those qualifiers then they must also be a person.

The problem then, is that gays have yet to prove they are gay. SO they
can't have a right to "gay life" based on thinking they're gay.... In
fact if they claim to be gay they might not even qualify as a person
since like the fetus they can't prove they are what they say they are. A
fetus can't prove they are a person and the gay can't prove they are a
gay person.
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The Constitution says " *the RIGHT of the people* " meaning that
Government has NO RIGHT or delegated power to interfere. And apparently
the States have no RIGHT or power either as amendment 10 says that the
right/power can be delegated to the States or the people and the RIGHT
to *keep and bear arms* is clearly delegated to the PEOPLE in the 2nd
amendment.
KWills Shill #3
2018-02-24 17:11:06 UTC
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On Fri, 23 Feb 2018 19:34:54 -0500, #BeamMeUpScotty
Post by #BeamMeUpScotty
On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 11:19:45 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 07:43:30 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
{snip}
The constitutionally protected rights of life and liberty apply
only to
persons, not to a fetus.  Thus, both the life and liberty of the woman
take precedent over both the life and liberty of the fetus.
Hmm, where does it say that?
The 14th Amendment says "nor shall any state deprive any person of life,
liberty, or property, without due process of law."  SCOTUS held that the
fetus is not a person in Roe.
So it does NOT say a "fetus" is not a person.  Got it.  Nor does it
say the life and liberty of one takes precedence over another.  Heck
it doesn't even mention a "right to privacy" You are relying on the
Court created law to justify your position.
It says that the Constitutionally-protected rights of life and liberty
apply only to persons.  The determination of whether a fetus is a
person, one way or the other, is a necessary first step before applying
the 14th Amendment.
Are Gays persons...?
Yes.
Post by #BeamMeUpScotty
Separate from Heterosexual persons?
No.
Post by #BeamMeUpScotty
A gay is a new type of person?
No. They've been around for centuries. Likely thousands, if not
millions, of years.
Post by #BeamMeUpScotty
How else did a gay get rights other than
to prove they're as real as heterosexuals,
That gays are real was and is not in dispute.
Post by #BeamMeUpScotty
and that would take some kind
of a test, but I haven't heard of that being given to any gays yet?
Much like racial classification, the government accepts the
claims of those who make them. If one claims to be gay, it's accepted
that they are.
Post by #BeamMeUpScotty
If the Supreme court requires proof that some human life is different
from a typical man or woman "a typical person" that is walking among
us..... is real then, why NOT demand that gays also prove they are a
person.
It's accepted that they are.
Is it possible some are lying? Sure. But it's not really likely.
Post by #BeamMeUpScotty
Otherwise they're just a mentally ill heterosexual. And they
have all the same rights as a mentally stable heterosexual.
Please point out where in the DSM V homosexuality can be seen
listed as a mental illness. If your claim regarding the mental health
of gays is a lie, you will not offer the requested cite.
Post by #BeamMeUpScotty
That's why they require a fetus to prove they're a person right,
So, in your mind, only women who are pregnant can be a person.
Men can't have a fetus, and at any given moment, not all women are
pregnant.
What of those women who, for whatever reason, are not able to get
pregnant? According to you, they are not persons.
Post by #BeamMeUpScotty
because
they aren't visibly a person in court, but a gay isn't visibly a gay in
court, they can be straight one day and gay the next and back to a
heterosexual the day after that.
Do some research and you'll find that is not how sexual
orientation works.
Your posts make it clear you FEAR any form of education, but try
to overcome it for the time necessary to learn this.
Post by #BeamMeUpScotty
The problem is the court assigned rights to "gays" with no proof that
they are any more real than a mentally ill heterosexual or a "fetus".
The evidence that gays exist is un measurable due to its massive
quantity. That they are real can't be honestly denied.
Post by #BeamMeUpScotty
And a mentally ill heterosexual has the same rights as any heterosexual
that isn't mentally ill don't they?
Not always. Depending on the diagnosis, they may have some rights
restricted and/or removed. Some can have their right to vote
suspended.
Post by #BeamMeUpScotty
So a "gay" can't have any rights to
gay marriage if no gays can prove they are "gay persons" just as a fetus
can't have any rights to life if they can't prove they are a
"handicapped person" or black person or gay person or female person or
some other type like a heterosexual person. Because once the fetus is
proven to have one of those qualifiers then they must also be a person.
Well, you do present above that only pregnant women have any
rights. And only during the time that they are pregnant.
Post by #BeamMeUpScotty
The problem then, is that gays have yet to prove they are gay. SO they
can't have a right to "gay life" based on thinking they're gay.... In
fact if they claim to be gay they might not even qualify as a person
since like the fetus they can't prove they are what they say they are. A
fetus can't prove they are a person and the gay can't prove they are a
gay person.
Again, and I'll write this slowly so you can keep up. Sexual
orientation is accepted as valid for the person who claims it.
How would a heterosexual go about LEGALLY proving they are
heterosexual? Maybe they're really gay and only claiming to be
straight for whatever reason.
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joeturn
2018-02-28 08:07:17 UTC
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Post by KWills Shill #3
On Fri, 23 Feb 2018 19:34:54 -0500, #BeamMeUpScotty
Post by #BeamMeUpScotty
On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 11:19:45 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 07:43:30 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
{snip}
The constitutionally protected rights of life and liberty apply
only to
persons, not to a fetus.  Thus, both the life and liberty of the woman
take precedent over both the life and liberty of the fetus.
Hmm, where does it say that?
The 14th Amendment says "nor shall any state deprive any person of life,
liberty, or property, without due process of law."  SCOTUS held that the
fetus is not a person in Roe.
So it does NOT say a "fetus" is not a person.  Got it.  Nor does it
say the life and liberty of one takes precedence over another.  Heck
it doesn't even mention a "right to privacy" You are relying on the
Court created law to justify your position.
It says that the Constitutionally-protected rights of life and liberty
apply only to persons.  The determination of whether a fetus is a
person, one way or the other, is a necessary first step before applying
the 14th Amendment.
Are Gays persons...?
Yes.
Post by #BeamMeUpScotty
Separate from Heterosexual persons?
No.
Post by #BeamMeUpScotty
A gay is a new type of person?
No. They've been around for centuries. Likely thousands, if not
millions, of years.
Post by #BeamMeUpScotty
How else did a gay get rights other than
to prove they're as real as heterosexuals,
That gays are real was and is not in dispute.
Post by #BeamMeUpScotty
and that would take some kind
of a test, but I haven't heard of that being given to any gays yet?
Much like racial classification, the government accepts the
claims of those who make them. If one claims to be gay, it's accepted
that they are.
Post by #BeamMeUpScotty
If the Supreme court requires proof that some human life is different
from a typical man or woman "a typical person" that is walking among
us..... is real then, why NOT demand that gays also prove they are a
person.
It's accepted that they are.
Is it possible some are lying? Sure. But it's not really likely.
Post by #BeamMeUpScotty
Otherwise they're just a mentally ill heterosexual. And they
have all the same rights as a mentally stable heterosexual.
Please point out where in the DSM V homosexuality can be seen
listed as a mental illness. If your claim regarding the mental health
of gays is a lie, you will not offer the requested cite.
Post by #BeamMeUpScotty
That's why they require a fetus to prove they're a person right,
So, in your mind, only women who are pregnant can be a person.
Men can't have a fetus, and at any given moment, not all women are
pregnant.
What of those women who, for whatever reason, are not able to get
pregnant? According to you, they are not persons.
Post by #BeamMeUpScotty
because
they aren't visibly a person in court, but a gay isn't visibly a gay in
court, they can be straight one day and gay the next and back to a
heterosexual the day after that.
Do some research and you'll find that is not how sexual
orientation works.
Your posts make it clear you FEAR any form of education, but try
to overcome it for the time necessary to learn this.
Post by #BeamMeUpScotty
The problem is the court assigned rights to "gays" with no proof that
they are any more real than a mentally ill heterosexual or a "fetus".
The evidence that gays exist is un measurable due to its massive
quantity. That they are real can't be honestly denied.
Post by #BeamMeUpScotty
And a mentally ill heterosexual has the same rights as any heterosexual
that isn't mentally ill don't they?
Not always. Depending on the diagnosis, they may have some rights
restricted and/or removed. Some can have their right to vote
suspended.
Post by #BeamMeUpScotty
So a "gay" can't have any rights to
gay marriage if no gays can prove they are "gay persons" just as a fetus
can't have any rights to life if they can't prove they are a
"handicapped person" or black person or gay person or female person or
some other type like a heterosexual person. Because once the fetus is
proven to have one of those qualifiers then they must also be a person.
Well, you do present above that only pregnant women have any
rights. And only during the time that they are pregnant.
Post by #BeamMeUpScotty
The problem then, is that gays have yet to prove they are gay. SO they
can't have a right to "gay life" based on thinking they're gay.... In
fact if they claim to be gay they might not even qualify as a person
since like the fetus they can't prove they are what they say they are. A
fetus can't prove they are a person and the gay can't prove they are a
gay person.
Again, and I'll write this slowly so you can keep up. Sexual
orientation is accepted as valid for the person who claims it.
How would a heterosexual go about LEGALLY proving they are
heterosexual? Maybe they're really gay and only claiming to be
straight for whatever reason.
Come on out of the closet Claiming your heterosexual will not set you free!
You could be walking the Disney Strip on Gay Day with your hand bag in one hand and your boy lover in the other. Be proud of what you are,no matter how many smirks you get.

They can tell by the way you talk.They can tell by the way you walk,so own it. Just don't let them know your also a pedophile and no harm will come to you,maybe aids but hey shit happens.
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KWills (Shill #3)
2018-02-28 09:58:07 UTC
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On Wed, 28 Feb 2018 00:07:17 -0800 (PST), joeturn <***@yahoo.com>
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The problem then, is that gays have yet to prove they are gay. SO they
can't have a right to "gay life" based on thinking they're gay.... In
fact if they claim to be gay they might not even qualify as a person
since like the fetus they can't prove they are what they say they are. A
fetus can't prove they are a person and the gay can't prove they are a
gay person.
Again, and I'll write this slowly so you can keep up. Sexual
orientation is accepted as valid for the person who claims it.
How would a heterosexual go about LEGALLY proving they are
heterosexual? Maybe they're really gay and only claiming to be
straight for whatever reason.
Come on out of the closet Claiming your heterosexual will not set you free!
You could be walking the Disney Strip on Gay Day with your hand bag in one hand and your boy lover in the other. Be proud of what you are,no matter how many smirks you get.
They can tell by the way you talk.They can tell by the way you walk,so own it. Just don't let them know your also a pedophile and no harm will come to you,maybe aids but hey shit happens.
You have the oddest sexual fantasies.
Why are the mentally ill, such as you, so SCARED of the ENTER
key? What is it about that key that causes you so much fear? I really
want to know.
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Aldrichtom
2018-02-28 02:37:07 UTC
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Why are you worried about this shit? Name me one effect it has on you.
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2018-02-28 02:45:55 UTC
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Why are you worried about this shit? Name me one effect it has on you.
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Because he’s ignorant. It goes right up his butt that people who don’t behave the way he thinks people should behave should get full protection under the law without having to hide their identities.
KWills (Shill #3)
2018-02-28 09:57:50 UTC
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On Wed, 28 Feb 2018 02:37:07 GMT, "Aldrichtom"
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Why are you worried about this shit? Name me one effect it has on you.
It would help if you would quote the article to which you
replied.
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RichA
2018-03-03 02:18:35 UTC
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Why are you worried about this shit? Name me one effect it has on you.
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